BitterDodgerFan wrote: RD wrote: AussieDodger wrote:
I like him , I don't know what the media are on about.
The guys that swagger because they are really good and know it are the ones I like.
Steroids? If there was no rule against them and up to a third of the league was doing them , then he gets a free pass.
I'm hoping you're being sarcastic about the "no rules against steroids" argument, but in case you aren't, there aren't any rules in the book regarding molesting children or murder either, so does Barry get a free pass on those?
wow that's a horrible analogy RD...i think you lost any chance of having a meaningful discussion in this thread.
horrible analogy but as Joe said, it is relevant. RD could have used slightly less extreme crimes as examples.
Here's the thing. Barry is going to break the record. He would have been a HOF'er with or without the record and since he has never been proven guilty, he is a 1st ballot HOF'er, without a doubt. There needs to be no asterisk, as I don't think anybody will forget the circumstances under which Aaron hit 755 and those circumstances under which Bonds hit 755+ (well, only 753 for now). No one can dispute that Aaron did it basically naturally (greenies are pretty tame in comparison to the drugs these days).
Now, I don't like Barry because of his attitude. Maybe the media did create the monster (though, as the "guess whose scouting report this is" game revealed, Bonds' ego has always preceded him) and I am too young to be a primary source (I was a mere toddler when he broke into the league) but the way he handles himself is just very hard to swallow.
I used to dislike ARod (he came out of the division that my favorite team calls home and some of the terms of his $250 million contract were absurd) but he for the most part says the right things and has, again for the most part, handled the over-the-top and excessive media blitz he gets from playing in pinstripes, quite well. His skills command admiration and he does nothing to off the field to warrant vilification.