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Postby jwhands » Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:56 pm

My chances at the playoffs took a big hit this week, so I am dropping my expiring contracts for prospects for next year. Let me know what you think of these offers:

Miguel Cabrera for Taylor Buchholz and 2nd round minor pick next year
Mark Teixeira for Elvis Andrus and 1st round minor pick next year

Do you think Buchholz will even get a crack in that Boston rotation?


Also, what prospects do you think I should be gunning for? I am currently loaded in OF talent, so I think I'm set there for a while. Here is my minor league roster:

Minors Batters
Sapp, Maxwell C HOU
Burriss, Emmanuel 2B SF
Villalona, Angel 3B SF
Brignac, Reid SS TB
Bush, Matt SS SD
Cardenas, Adrian SS PHI
Mattingly, Preston SS LA
Upton, Justin CF ARI
Crowe, Trevor OF CLE
Gillespie, Cole LF MIL
Gomez, Carlos OF NYM
Gwynn, Tony K. CF MIL
Hankerd, Cyle OF ARI
Hunter, Cedric OF SD
Jay, Jon OF STL
Jones, Adam CF SEA
Rasmus, Colby OF STL
Tabata, Jose OF NYY

Minors Pitchers
Erbe, Brandon SP BAL
Guerra, Deolis SP NYM
Hellickson, Jeremy SP TB
Humber, Philip SP NYM
Jackson, Zach SP MIL
Morales, Franklin SP COL
Morlan, Eduardo SP MIN
O'Sullivan, Sean SP ANA
Rasmus, Cory SP ATL
Sleeth, Kyle SP DET
Thompson, Aaron SP FLA
Volstad, Chris SP FLA
Broadway, Lance RP CHW
Perkins, Glen P MIN
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby Amatter32 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:22 pm

You should be able to get a lot more for either of those guys.
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:26 pm

Amatter32 wrote:You should be able to get a lot more for either of those guys.


agreed, like 3 quality prospect for each, especially for Miggy

and Taylor Bucholtz plays for the Rockies, Clay plays for Boston.
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby AEMRICH » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:59 pm

yea you really need to get more for those guys. M-Cab and Tex are guys who will be drafted in the 1st and 2/3 rounds respectively. You need elite prospects for these guys. Don't forget that M-Cab and Mark are proven players in the bigs and prospects have just done well in minor league ball, the bigs is a completely different story.
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:26 pm

First off, I hope that is Clay Buchholz and not Taylor. :-D

Secondsly, just like the others, I would want lots more for Mcab and Tex (especially Mcab) then what you would be receiving.
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby jwhands » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:06 pm

It is Clay, sorry for the typo. I'll also add that this is an auction keeper league, and both Tex and M-Cab's contracts are expiring at the end of the year. This means that they cannot be resigned by anyone and wind up in the auction again next year, so I might as well get something now instead of letting them go for nothing.
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:18 pm

even for 2 month rentals, you should get better prospects for those 2 first rounders. Heck, I gave up 2 good prospects just to upgrade from Ortiz to Teixeira.
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby jwhands » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:32 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:even for 2 month rentals, you should get better prospects for those 2 first rounders. Heck, I gave up 2 good prospects just to upgrade from Ortiz to Teixeira.


Remember, this is an auction league. They may be first round talent, but they are going back into the auction for next year. I will have plenty of cap to retain them. For M-Cab, I am getting arguably the #1 pitching prospect and a 2nd round pick. Who would you suggest I should be requesting in return for him? What type of offer would you value for a player on a 2 month loan?
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:36 pm

jwhands wrote:
PlayingWithFire wrote:even for 2 month rentals, you should get better prospects for those 2 first rounders. Heck, I gave up 2 good prospects just to upgrade from Ortiz to Teixeira.


Remember, this is an auction league. They may be first round talent, but they are going back into the auction for next year. I will have plenty of cap to retain them. For M-Cab, I am getting arguably the #1 pitching prospect and a 2nd round pick. Who would you suggest I should be requesting in return for him? What type of offer would you value for a player on a 2 month loan?


That #1 pitching prospect is going to pitch half his games in fenway, I'd ask for at least Clay Bucholtz and another top 100 prospect. Get the words out there that you are shopping those 2, give the league 2 weeks(or whenever is the deadline) highest bidder wins. This approach usually works best.
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Re: Playing for next year, looking for good prospects in deals

Postby Curtis Pride » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:18 pm

Off topic here a bit, but it's weird seeing the different value of minor leaguers/ keepers in various leagues.

I traded away Pence and Andrew Miller for Grady Sizemore and Miguel Cabrera. A previous guy in this thread gave up two big minor leaguers just to get an upgrade.

Some people are saying you should get two top prospects just for one hitter.

While it looks like others are valuing minor leaguers / keepers even less than my league does.
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