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Matt Cain Sucks

Postby ceLpH » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:51 pm

terrible control... weak K/BB ratio.. WHIP over 1.4... no run support

someone give me a reason not to cut this guy?
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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby fiz » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:08 pm

Reason #1 - I would trade for him at this point, so I think you could get something /anything for him. He didn't have the best fielding support this last game. He is someone who I thought so far would do well in the 2nd half. I bet he still does. And who are you gonna pick up, Wandy Rodriguez?
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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby angels7777 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:34 pm

I'll give you Dontrelle Willis for him...
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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby ceLpH » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:31 pm

fiz wrote:Reason #1 - I would trade for him at this point, so I think you could get something /anything for him. He didn't have the best fielding support this last game. He is someone who I thought so far would do well in the 2nd half. I bet he still does. And who are you gonna pick up, Wandy Rodriguez?


nope

just dropped him for Gallardo
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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby ceLpH » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:32 pm

angels7777 wrote:I'll give you Dontrelle Willis for him...


ha

I was smart enough to avoid him in the draft
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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby Ursa » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:56 am

I took a fair beating here when I traded Cain away for Beltre on June 25th. So far it's a good trade.

Beltre since June 26th:

8 R, 4 HR, 16 RBI, 3 SB, 0.313 BA

Cain since June 26th:

1 W, 3 L, 22.1 IP, 20 ER, 18 K, 1.70 WHIP

I'll take Beltre.
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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby Inukchuk » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:29 am

I have to say, if you're pissed about his performance yesterday, you shouldn't be. In the 4th, he had a no no going until a pair of 2 out singles. The next batter worked the count to 3-2, then Cain threw a great pitch right over the outside 3rd of the plate. The ump called it ball 4. Cain got visibly flustered, the announcers were shocked, and I started cussing up a storm in my living room, knowing Cain's fragile mound presence was shaken. Next guy hit a grounder that bounced off Klesko's glove, which was suspiciously ruled a hit, giving Cain 2 ER. Of course, it was all downhill from there. Next guy doubled, and Cain got yanked after quickly giving up another in the 5th. Between that and Smoltz pitching unbelievably but still not getting the win, I was not a happy boy yesterday.

The moral of the story: Cain got screwed yet again. I wouldn't put much stock into yesterday's fiasco, but encourage you to check out his 2nd half numbers over his career. That should give you some motivation to hang on to him for a little while longer.
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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby x_Momentum » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:18 pm

If your pitching staff can take care of itself without Cain, then I say just hold onto him a bit longer and see how he can ride it out for a week or two and then make a decision. If your pitching needs help then list a group of pitchers on FA or WW and then make a choice from them. Holding onto Cain might have it's reward but at the same time, he does suck right now, so dropping him wouldn't hurt too bad.
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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby River Rat » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:20 pm

I traded for him in one league and in another I picked him using my waiver wire priority.

I did this for the exact same reason as the previous poster. I am making a play on his second half numbers. Despite the awful run support and his sporadic lack of control, he should be a two start pitcher next week so I am confident to be pitching him in two weekly leagues.

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Re: Matt Cain Sucks

Postby charliebrown2 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:13 pm

Matt Cain does not suck...the giants do :,-(
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