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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby Yoda » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:54 am

jfg wrote:I don't know why people aren't as upset about athletes getting involved in altercations like Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis or how about athletes involved in rape cases. It just seems really strange to me that people are willing to accept things that affect human lives but it's the worst offense to kill dogs. Again, not that killing dogs is anywhere near ok, but raping a woman is 100X worse to me and killing somebody or being involved with it doesn't even come close.

I don't think most athletes have one time lapse of judgment. Just like Vick it's a pattern of behavior that they've gotten away with most of their life. But, unlike Vick they didn't get jail time and that's why I think Vick deserves his second chance, he did his time and didn't get a slap on the wrist like most.


I think it has to do with the situation. Dogs are like perpetual babies and people who raise them know what I am talking about. Most of them cannot survive on their own and are at the mercy of people who are caring for them. So scumbags like Vick who are raising them to kill each other for enjoyment makes people upset.
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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby Metroid » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:23 am

Yoda wrote:
jfg wrote:I don't know why people aren't as upset about athletes getting involved in altercations like Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis or how about athletes involved in rape cases. It just seems really strange to me that people are willing to accept things that affect human lives but it's the worst offense to kill dogs. Again, not that killing dogs is anywhere near ok, but raping a woman is 100X worse to me and killing somebody or being involved with it doesn't even come close.

I don't think most athletes have one time lapse of judgment. Just like Vick it's a pattern of behavior that they've gotten away with most of their life. But, unlike Vick they didn't get jail time and that's why I think Vick deserves his second chance, he did his time and didn't get a slap on the wrist like most.


I think it has to do with the situation. Dogs are like perpetual babies and people who raise them know what I am talking about. Most of them cannot survive on their own and are at the mercy of people who are caring for them. So scumbags like Vick who are raising them to kill each other for enjoyment makes people upset.

That and Vick was also a QB, and the face of a franchise. Those two reasons alone are going to get him more attention.
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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:56 am

Metroid wrote:
Yoda wrote:
jfg wrote:I don't know why people aren't as upset about athletes getting involved in altercations like Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis or how about athletes involved in rape cases. It just seems really strange to me that people are willing to accept things that affect human lives but it's the worst offense to kill dogs. Again, not that killing dogs is anywhere near ok, but raping a woman is 100X worse to me and killing somebody or being involved with it doesn't even come close.

I don't think most athletes have one time lapse of judgment. Just like Vick it's a pattern of behavior that they've gotten away with most of their life. But, unlike Vick they didn't get jail time and that's why I think Vick deserves his second chance, he did his time and didn't get a slap on the wrist like most.


I think it has to do with the situation. Dogs are like perpetual babies and people who raise them know what I am talking about. Most of them cannot survive on their own and are at the mercy of people who are caring for them. So scumbags like Vick who are raising them to kill each other for enjoyment makes people upset.

That and Vick was also a QB, and the face of a franchise. Those two reasons alone are going to get him more attention.


yeah...Vick was actually a good player, Stallworth was marginal at best. i mean if it was Justin Gage or something who killed dogs and then came back, there would probably be a big collective meh...
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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby Metroid » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:40 am

Dan Lambskin wrote:
Metroid wrote:
Yoda wrote:
I think it has to do with the situation. Dogs are like perpetual babies and people who raise them know what I am talking about. Most of them cannot survive on their own and are at the mercy of people who are caring for them. So scumbags like Vick who are raising them to kill each other for enjoyment makes people upset.

That and Vick was also a QB, and the face of a franchise. Those two reasons alone are going to get him more attention.


yeah...Vick was actually a good player, Stallworth was marginal at best. i mean if it was Justin Gage or something who killed dogs and then came back, there would probably be a big collective meh...


Exactly. And if it was someone like TO or Randy Moss that did what Stallworth did, it would be covered much more. It's all about their star power. If AJ Feeley smackes a stripper in a night club it'd be hardly covered and mostly forgotten about in month, If Tom Brady smackes a stripper in a nigh club it'd be headline material for a year.
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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:44 am

Metroid wrote:
Dan Lambskin wrote:
Metroid wrote:That and Vick was also a QB, and the face of a franchise. Those two reasons alone are going to get him more attention.


yeah...Vick was actually a good player, Stallworth was marginal at best. i mean if it was Justin Gage or something who killed dogs and then came back, there would probably be a big collective meh...


Exactly. And if it was someone like TO or Randy Moss that did what Stallworth did, it would be covered much more. It's all about their star power. If AJ Feeley smackes a stripper in a night club it'd be hardly covered and mostly forgotten about in month, If Tom Brady smackes a stripper in a nigh club it'd be headline material for a year.

I so wish this would happen.
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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby Metroid » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:48 am

bigh0rt wrote:
Metroid wrote:
Dan Lambskin wrote:
yeah...Vick was actually a good player, Stallworth was marginal at best. i mean if it was Justin Gage or something who killed dogs and then came back, there would probably be a big collective meh...


Exactly. And if it was someone like TO or Randy Moss that did what Stallworth did, it would be covered much more. It's all about their star power. If AJ Feeley smackes a stripper in a night club it'd be hardly covered and mostly forgotten about in month, If Tom Brady smackes a stripper in a nigh club it'd be headline material for a year.

I so wish this would happen.

That would be kinda funny. :-b
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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby Yoda » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:43 am

I saw the 60 minutes interview. Whether he is sincerely sorry or not is irrelevant because he obviously is. He grew up watching dog fights and it was the norm. However, he made a conscious choice to finance and run a dog fighting ring for 6 years. He lied about it to everyone after he was caught. I don't think 2 years in jail has completely reformed him but obviously he won't be running any dog fighting rings in the future.
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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby knapplc » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:46 am

Yoda wrote:Whether he is sincerely sorry or not is irrelevant because he obviously is.

Say what? :-b
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Re: Michael Vick indicted

Postby Yoda » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:57 am

knapplc wrote:
Yoda wrote:Whether he is sincerely sorry or not is irrelevant because he obviously is.

Say what? :-b


Should say irrelevant. Not "not".
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