trevisc wrote:sounds like he'll have no fantasy value this year.
I wouldn't say that just yet. If Urbina does go to Pittsburgh, you have to remember that he has some good starters who are (hopefully) going to get better and pitch more than 5-6 innings. If they can go 7 or 8, there is a better chance the closer is going to get a save. The Pirates lost a ton (at least 30) games last year because of the bullpen. Now, I'm not saying the setup guys are any better than last year (in fact, they are probably worse), but if they can just get it to the ninth with a lead and have Urbina come in there, I hope he wouldn't pull a Mike Williams and load the bases before finally finishing the games. Don't forget Williams had over 40 saves two years ago in Pittsburgh, and over 20 when he got traded last year. Think about it: Pittsburgh, when it does win, normally wins close. Hence, closers get tons of saves!

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