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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby Field » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:01 pm

I was surprised to see that they executed him as well, but if he really did approve untested drugs in exchange for money then I can definitely see why they did it.

Everyone talks about booming China, I could definitely see a huge recession in the next year. Double digit growth is unsustainable for such a long period, even for a country as large and largely undeveloped as China.
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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby PlayingWithFire » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:03 pm

We all know the problems, but the truth is there's no simple solution to any of those. ;-7
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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby PlayingWithFire » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:05 pm

mbuser wrote:one interesting tidbit from that frontline special -- they are huge informations censors, both coming in and going out of the country. thanks in large part to that censorship, students from the same university as the students who were the largest part of the protests in 1989 have no idea what the context for this pic was:
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one student even asked if it was a manipulated image meant to be art


Trust me when I say that words of mouth gets around about those issues, even if the government suppress them.
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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby knapplc » Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:58 pm

Fresh headline today - the bad news from China keeps rolling in:

Beijing steamed buns include cardboard



BEIJING - Chopped cardboard, softened with an industrial chemical and flavored with fatty pork and powdered seasoning, is a main ingredient in batches of steamed buns sold in one Beijing neighborhood, state television said.

The report, aired late Wednesday on China Central Television, highlights the country's problems with food safety despite government efforts to improve the situation.

Countless small, often illegally run operations exist across China and make money cutting corners by using inexpensive ingredients or unsavory substitutes. They are almost impossible to regulate.

State TV's undercover investigation features the shirtless, shorts-clad maker of the buns, called baozi, explaining the contents of the product sold in Beijing's sprawling Chaoyang district.

Baozi are a common snack in China, with an outer skin made from wheat or rice flour and and a filling of sliced pork. Cooked by steaming in immense bamboo baskets, they are similar to but usually much bigger than the dumplings found on dim sum menus familiar to many Americans.

The hidden camera follows the man, whose face is not shown, into a ramshackle building where steamers are filled with the fluffy white buns, traditionally stuffed with minced pork.

The surroundings are filthy, with water puddles and piles of old furniture and cardboard on the ground.

"What's in the recipe?" the reporter asks. "Six to four," the man says.

"You mean 60 percent cardboard? What is the other 40 percent?" asks the reporter. "Fatty meat," the man replies.

The bun maker and his assistants then give a demonstration on how the product is made.

Squares of cardboard picked from the ground are first soaked to a pulp in a plastic basin of caustic soda — a chemical base commonly used in manufacturing paper and soap — then chopped into tiny morsels with a cleaver. Fatty pork and powdered seasoning are stirred in.

Soon, steaming servings of the buns appear on the screen. The reporter takes a bite.

"This baozi filling is kind of tough. Not much taste," he says. "Can other people taste the difference?"

"Most people can't. It fools the average person," the maker says. "I don't eat them myself."

The police eventually showed up and shut down the operation.
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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby mbuser » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:09 am

i was coming in to post that same story X-I
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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:29 am

ugh i just saw the cardboard dumpling video...that was disgusting. it's really sad. i wouldn't be surprised if they executed the guy there, they probably will crack down hard with the upcoming olympics and everything. this substituting ingredients with non edible crap has to stop though. i'm glad that this explosive news broke out and showing how messed up their practices are. these kind of reports might be bad for china's reputation, but i think it will do a lot of good for their future and rest of the world's future. hopefully chinese government can step up and do what's right.
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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby bleach168 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:42 am

If China doesn't shape up soon, it will be time for us to tie basic human rights issues to foreign trade. That's the best way to get them to take action.
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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby mbuser » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:25 pm

bleach168 wrote:If China doesn't shape up soon, it will be time for us to tie basic human rights issues to foreign trade. That's the best way to get them to take action.

i can't imagine that wal-mart lobbyists would allow that to happen
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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby bleach168 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:30 pm

mbuser wrote:
bleach168 wrote:If China doesn't shape up soon, it will be time for us to tie basic human rights issues to foreign trade. That's the best way to get them to take action.

i can't imagine that wal-mart lobbyists would allow that to happen


What? You're saying lobbyists running our country ISN'T a good thing? :-?


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Re: The Industrialization of China

Postby Yoda » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:35 pm

Paper = fiber... :-D
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