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Postby AussieDodger » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:16 pm

I thought Joey Votto was a king among prospects , and then.........
From http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=t ... &type=lgns

"Votto has had to overcome obstacles this season. He was experiencing blurry vision in his right eye early in the season, went to the doctors, was given contacts and soon after embarked on a 17-game hitting streak."

"I don't know what happened to my eyes. I couldn't see out of my right eye," Votto said. "I could see, but it wasn't clear vision. I had an optometrist take a look at it and they said I had bad vision and you've got to put contacts in, so they wrote a prescription and it worked out OK.

"Yeah, how about that (hitting streak). It's funny how these things work. I see great afterwards. I don't want to necessarily say that it has everything to do with my contacts, but it does have something to do with my eyesight. I thought I was going to come around anyways, but I see the ball now."

:-° :-° :-° :-° :-° :-° He did what he did last year AND HE COULDN'T SEE! :-° :-° :-° :-° :-° :-° :-°

All hail the new messiah of hitters who will be debuting in 2007. I am in 2 deep leagues and have him in both. I suggest everyone who reads this do the same. ;-D
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Re: Joey Votto - Must See Post

Postby Amatter32 » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:20 pm

It said it was just this season, not last.
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Re: Joey Votto - Must See Post

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:22 pm

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Re: Joey Votto - Must See Post

Postby IllinoisBandit » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:22 pm

Well, unless Griffey or Dunn get traded before the deadline, he really has no place to play. He's been learning the outfield but obviously has no spot there now. Hatteberg is signed through next year at first and although he might not be a fantasy stud, is actually a pretty darn good real life hitter. I think he's a September callup in '08.

As a Reds fan I'm pretty excited and dieing for Dunn to get traded.
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Postby phunkadelic » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:23 pm

Barring a trade of Adam Dunn or Scott Hatteburg, Votto won't be up until September at the earliest.
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Re: Joey Votto - Must See Post

Postby benjapage » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:42 am

it wouldn't be far-fetched to see hattie, dunn, or conine shipped off.

can't wait to see the kid hit.

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Re: Joey Votto - Must See Post

Postby Havok1517 » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:47 am

IllinoisBandit wrote:Well, unless Griffey or Dunn get traded before the deadline, he really has no place to play. He's been learning the outfield but obviously has no spot there now. Hatteberg is signed through next year at first and although he might not be a fantasy stud, is actually a pretty darn good real life hitter. I think he's a September callup in '08.

As a Reds fan I'm pretty excited and dieing for Dunn to get traded.


Hatteberg is only signed through 2007 but does have a club option at $1.8 Million for 2008. I'd rather keep Hatteberg than Conine as a mentor for Votto, as a pench hitter, and as an emergency catcher. But if the right offer comes around, I deal Hatteberg in a New York minute.

Some of my thoughts...

I personally would not move either Griffey nor Dunn.

Dunn's option becomes a player one if he gets traded this year and 13 million isn't really a ton in this market with Pierre and Matthews getting what they got. I bet Dunn is hoping they trade him and he can opt of for 2008 and sign big FA money. He'll be more valuable to trade in 2008 than 2007 as well. Plus, the Reds have Milton and LaRue finally off the books in 2008. If he goes anywhere, I think it'll be to the Angels for at the very least a stud pitching prospect (Adenhart?), another good pitching prospect, and a young major league starter (Santana?. These are Krivsky's current demands as heard on the Sports Animal 980 Cincinnati.

Griffey is having a great year and is at his prime value right now but the Reds aren't winning and he's the main attraction (just like Bonds is in SF but for the right reasons). He's signed through 2009 and I he has to appove a trade anyways.

2008 Cincinnati Reds OF

RF:
Ken Griffey 2008
Josh Hamilton 2009-

CF:
Josh Hamilton 2008
Jay Bruce 2009
Drew Stubbs (A) 2010-

LF:
Adam Dunn 2008 (T)
Ken Griffey 2009
Jay Bruce 2010-

The Reds should attempt to move Hatteberg, Weathers, Lohse, Conine. All are FAs after this year and all have value to contenders. Votto is replacing the Hatteberg/Conine plattoon, Weathers is a useful setup man on a good team, and Lohse (a Boras client) is too expensive to resign and has been great at times, like tonight. None of these guys will net stud prospects but they could net underachievers with some upside to strengthen an already strong system.


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Re: Joey Votto - Must See Post

Postby IllinoisBandit » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:33 am

I agree, Havok. The trade deadline will be telling in regard to Votto's immediate future. If noone gets moved I really don't see how he breaks the lineup in '08. Hatteberg's been much too good and both his and Dunn's options are too reasonable for the Reds not to retain them and play them.

I'd also like to note that I think it will be a couple years after Votto's debut for him to attain mixed league viability if he's playing first base. I think he'll be a fine real life player pretty quick, but it may be a while before his gap power turns into HR power at the MLB level. And forget about the SB hype of a few years ago, I don't believe he'll ever grab more than 10.
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Re: Joey Votto - Must See Post

Postby StlSluggers » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:24 am

He can take as long as he wants in coming up. I already have Tex as my Franchise Player in my contract league with Votto in my minors system. If Votto's going to be a stud, I would like to be able to keep Votto for as long as possible before having to make a tough decision.
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Re: Joey Votto - Must See Post

Postby RyeWhiskey » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:09 pm

Would anyone care to venture a projection of what type of hitter he'll be? Are we looking at an AVG hovering around .300 with good power - so basically another power hitting 1B? Or is there something special that should attract my attention to him in particular? I'm sitting on Teix in a 12 team 9-player keeper league, and so I guess I'm looking for Votto's value in such a league.
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