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Re: Reds Fire Narron

Postby slomo007 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:47 pm

IllinoisBandit wrote:
slomo007 wrote:I guess I just don't understand. Why is he getting the blame? What do you expect when you have a pitching staff (outside of Harang) that is a pile of doo-doo? I mean Bobby Cox is the only manager in the league that would have an outside chance of competing with a roster like the Reds have. If the players liked/respected Narron, then why not give him more of a chance?

The Reds are destined to continue failing until they get more talent. A new manager will do nothing.


I tend to disagree. Even a casual fan can identify the mass mismanagement of the bullpen this season. He really makes you scratch your head almost every single night. Using rookies 5 days in a row and stubbornly putting Todd Coffey in situations in which he's destined to fail. Not to mention refusing to use Burton for much of the season, even in blowouts, and then when the bullpen is worn he ends up having to throw him in a pressure situation.

This three catcher thing has gotten rediculous. Moeller has no place on an MLB roster once so ever.

The Reds have one of the best offenses in the league (they lead MLB in HR's) and have gotten adequate starting pitching much of the time, epecially early on from the 1-4 starters. Still, Jerry's has found a way to lose almost every night.


I don't get a chance to watch as many Reds games as I would like, but I do try to follow the games pretty closely online. I agree that he doesn't use Coffey effectively, but then again that can be balanced out by saying that Weathers has definitely overachieved this season.

I just don't think the Reds have the pitching to compete for several years. They need 1 or 2 more reliable starters and another bullpen arm (Guardado coming back will help but he's not the savior). I agree their offense is fine, even if they did give up Lopez and Kearns for peanuts. But the offense hasn't been the problem in a while, it's been their pitching...and it's not getting any better.
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Re: Reds Fire Narron

Postby AussieDodger » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:54 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:Narron is a super nice guy, and I imagine some team will pick him up as a bench coach over the winter.


He'd be part of the "good ole boy" network , some halfwit like Sabean/Jocketty or Coletti will give him a job. ;-D
Better on those teams then on a team I like. ;-D ;-D ;-D
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Re: Reds Fire Narron

Postby Havok1517 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:12 pm

slomo007 wrote:
IllinoisBandit wrote:
slomo007 wrote:I guess I just don't understand. Why is he getting the blame? What do you expect when you have a pitching staff (outside of Harang) that is a pile of doo-doo? I mean Bobby Cox is the only manager in the league that would have an outside chance of competing with a roster like the Reds have. If the players liked/respected Narron, then why not give him more of a chance?

The Reds are destined to continue failing until they get more talent. A new manager will do nothing.


I tend to disagree. Even a casual fan can identify the mass mismanagement of the bullpen this season. He really makes you scratch your head almost every single night. Using rookies 5 days in a row and stubbornly putting Todd Coffey in situations in which he's destined to fail. Not to mention refusing to use Burton for much of the season, even in blowouts, and then when the bullpen is worn he ends up having to throw him in a pressure situation.

This three catcher thing has gotten rediculous. Moeller has no place on an MLB roster once so ever.

The Reds have one of the best offenses in the league (they lead MLB in HR's) and have gotten adequate starting pitching much of the time, epecially early on from the 1-4 starters. Still, Jerry's has found a way to lose almost every night.


I don't get a chance to watch as many Reds games as I would like, but I do try to follow the games pretty closely online. I agree that he doesn't use Coffey effectively, but then again that can be balanced out by saying that Weathers has definitely overachieved this season.

I just don't think the Reds have the pitching to compete for several years. They need 1 or 2 more reliable starters and another bullpen arm (Guardado coming back will help but he's not the savior). I agree their offense is fine, even if they did give up Lopez and Kearns for peanuts. But the offense hasn't been the problem in a while, it's been their pitching...and it's not getting any better.


1. He can't stick to a consistent lineup. Bats Gonzo in fron of Dunn!!!

2. Leaves starters in when they shouldn't be in (16-1 game and Harang pitches in the 8th :-t )

3. He gets outcoached by just about every manager he is up against in terms of switching, pinch hitting, and situational reliving.
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Re: Reds Fire Narron

Postby Daddymike59 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:16 pm

Outside of the Cafe members that feel sorry for fired managers, is there anything good to say about Narron? I've been a Reds fan for 30 years and I've not seen much worse coaching in my lifetime.
The man just makes poor decisions. Ray Knight Lives.
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