It's a shame that Ichiro didn't start playing in the US until he was 27/28 years old. The fact that his name is even being remotely mentioned in this conversation after having such a late start really speaks volumes at how great of a hitter he is.
Arod and Jeter are locks to be in the 3000 hit club. I see both of them getting 3500+. Bonds will play next year just to get to 3000 hits and I think Griffey will stay healthy long enough to sneak in there. If Ichiro started plaing in the US at 20 years old, he would have a really good shot at Pete Rose's record.
by Absolutely Adequate » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 am
In addition to Pudge, Arod, and Jeter, I think Damon could make it before the end of his career (2021 hits at age 33). Edgar Renteria is on a nice pace, as well (1871 at 31).
Interesting sidenote: The player in his 20s with the most hits is.... Juan Pierre. I'm betting against him, though.
Of course, it's such a difficult plateau. It requires excellence over a long, long period of time. Biggio should be lauded more for his accomplishment.
kimchi_chigae wrote: I had no idea Pudge actually had a chance to get 3000 hits.
Most people probably don't realize that Pudge already holds the record for most hits by a catcher. It's not even really close and by the time he retires his Catcher record will be about as far away from second place as Rickey's stolen base record is from second place.
I think the main reason people are surprised by the number of hits pudge as had is because they forget that he broke into the league when he was 20 or 21 as a full time starter. Not to completely hijack the thread, but the current player with maybe the best chance of catching Rose is Jose Reyes. Jeter may fall a little short although as stated, I could see him breaking it. Outside of that, Reyes has some things going for him. He is only 24 and coming off back to back 190 plus hit season after breaking into the league at age 21. He's on his way to 200 plus this year. He is the proto-type leadoff hitter, so he'll stay there and get a lot of at bats. He doesn't walk a lot, so that further increases the number of at bats. He seems like he can be a consistent 300 hitter, which with the number of at bats he'll get would most likely result in a lot of 200 to 220 hit seasons. Of course, he is so far away and so young, it is really hard to project that far ahead. That is why I see Jeter as the best candidate and maybe Reyes a notch below.
kimchi_chigae wrote:Didn't Bernie Mac get 3000 hits last season or something? Pretty impressive for an actor.
I had no idea Pudge actually had a chance to get 3000 hits.
Actually in his last at bat he laid down a bunt that scored the baserunner from second, he was thrown out and ended his career at 2,999 hits. Still pretty impressive though