fair enough, but with the way things are these days, one hears stuff like that all the time.
It's a tough balance, and I don't know what the answer is, but not selling beer isn't one of them. I believe ti would have the opposite effect and ultimately make the whole thing too costly for kids to go regularly. They out to just have more ushers or something.
Well my argument against this would be; what exactly do you think you're buying a ticket to?? This is a professional sporting event, the whole purpose of it is entertainment. The game runs on fans and people enjoying themselves at the ballgame, why remove something people enjoy? Sometimes people do get a little intoxicated at ballgames, and that's too bad. But it's not as if the ballpark staff ignore the problems at the ballpark, they're happy to help and remove overly annoying drunk patrons.
Banning alcohol won't prevent people from being drunks and idiots at the game. And I agree with "think of the children" as being a poor argument in this debate. Because from my standpoint, it's the kids I find most annoying at ballgames and not the drunks, and I'm rarely anywhere near drunk at the ballpark. It's not like you're suprising parents with the fact that there's alcohol and obscene language at the ballpark, that's pretty well known. I don't get annoyed when they serve alcohol at a bar, they shouldn't be annoyed when alcohol is served at the ballgame.
...Boston papers now and then suffer a sharp flurry of arithmetic on this score; indeed, for Williams to have distributed all his hits so they did nobody else any good would constitute a feat of placement unparalleled in the annals of selfishness. -Updike
We have a family section at the Dome. It used to be upper deck behind home plate (my favorite seats at the dome for the price) but they switched it to the corner of right field two years ago. I think it's 13 bucks a ticket and comes with a complimentary soda. It was the best deal ever when they were behind home plate (they were only 10 bucks then, soda included). The only problem is that it's one puny section. It doesn't sell out but alcohol is served in the section right next to you. But, at least you lower the chances of your kid overhearing something they shouldn't.
But, I think the best thing to do when taking your kid to the game is not buy the cheap tickets or bleacher seats. Granted, if you live in NY or Boston you're going to have problems avoiding bad situations because you will always have to sit next to someone, but any other town you can buy seats that you can move from if there is a problem, or spend a little more money and sit in a section that is more for people actually out to watch the game, like behind home plate.
Not all stadiums have really expensive beers. I went to a 'stros game a few years ago (Clemens vs. Maddux; first time 300 game winners faced off in like 30 years or something close to that) and they had 24 oz. Heinken's for $5 or $6. That is a hell of a deal, and you can definitely afford to get a solid buzz going with those prices. I only wish Fenway was the same way .
great gretzky wrote:jesus, I get so sick of the "think of the children argument."
Sure, but sometimes you can be seated next to some truly obscene (and loud) conversations that are absolutely inappropriate for a public place with kids around. Sexually explicit, etc etc. A post-fifth inning ban would be a decent compromise.
EDIT: A 'family section' would be great.
i assumed most stadiums did...i know Comerica and Ford Field in Detroit do
Field wrote:Not all stadiums have really expensive beers. I went to a 'stros game a few years ago (Clemens vs. Maddux; first time 300 game winners faced off in like 30 years or something close to that) and they had 24 oz. Heinken's for $5 or $6. That is a hell of a deal, and you can definitely afford to get a solid buzz going with those prices. I only wish Fenway was the same way .
first off, i know im going to catch heat for this, but if they banned alcohol from ballparks i would stop going. i go to the games to have fun, kind of like going to a bar, but w a ballgame going on.
and the current beer prices at the juice box are $8 24 oz domestics, and $9 24 oz corona, heiny, or shiners in teh club level. so if you average it out thats only $4 a beer, which is almost as cheap as at a bar. its great
talan37 wrote:It takes 20 minutes to get to the train station, average 5 minutes way for the train, Hicksville to penn station, 45minutes average, walk to the subway 5minutes, subway ride 15ish minutes(don't remember approximating, then walk 5 minutes to stadium.
20+5+45+5+15+5=95minutes, and thats assuming you get on the subway immediately, there is no traffic to the train station, you don't wait more than 5 minutes at the station etc...
Its mostly a function of where I live on the island, than the island itself.
Why don't you take the Hicksville train to Woodside and take the 7 train from there. Just a suggestion.
I'm not for banning alcohol at baseball games. I think that would be a terrible idea. Let people make their own decisions, its not alcohol's fault that people are stupid enough to drink 10 beers and then drive home.
Yes, there are kids at the game, but if parents don't think they can handle what goes on at games they obviously shouldn't be there. Still, if it ever gets to the point where a kid walks into the stadium and immediately see thousands of drunks screaming curse words, then maybe something should be done. But we're not even close to that point.
"Oh, that Lankford and McGee, the trio of 'em. They're a one-man wrecking crew."