stevethumb wrote:does anyone know when jbruce has to be put on the reds 40 man roster ?
I'm not sure I understand the question, but I think the answer is not before October 2008 unless he is called up to the majors.
I don't know all of the ins/outs of transactions, but I don't think a minor leaguer ever HAS to be put on the 40 man Roster during the season, unless you want to call them up to the majors.
If you don't intend to call a player up, the only time I know that you have to put someone on the 40 man roster to protect them from the Rule 5 draft. And the Rule 5 draft is only in the offseason, so I think you can wait till after the season to put them on the 40 man roster in that case.
As for the Rule 5 draft, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Leag ... ansactions
it says: "If a player not on a 40-man roster has spent three years with a minor-league contract originally signed when 19 or older or 4 years when signed before the age of 19, he is eligible to be chosen by any team in the rule 5 draft during the offseason."
The goal of Rule 5 is to protect the minor leaguer so they don't get "stuck" in an organization that doesn't like him enough to put him on the 40 man roster, but likes him too much to let him go.
Jay Bruce was signed at 19 years of age or older. (I think.) He is currently in his second season. He isn't eligible for Rule 5 draft until after the 2008 baseball season. So, he would have to go on the 40 man roster in late 2008 or be open to other teams at the 2008/2009 Rule 5 draft.
Someone help me if I missed something.