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Postby chefref22 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:51 pm

1.soriano
2.boone
3.kent
4.vidro
5.giles
6.castillo
7.young
8.durham
9.reyes
10.alomar

jimenez and spivey right behind...

utley isn't projected to be the starter,i dont know how he can be top 10.
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Postby stabone76 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:07 pm

Erboes wrote:Stabone, that is not a good argument. It is like you are saying that you hate the English language so you are now going to speak nothing but Swahili. That is great -- if you are in Swahili. You can value players with any method you prefer, but when everyone else in the world uses $ values it may be wise to speak the same language.

The more I mess around with these formulas the more I realize it is pretty damn accurate. Stolen bases, whether you agree with it or not, are very valuable and they do affect values either for the good or for the bad. Boone had 4 more stolen bases then Giles, which accounts for most of Boone's excess value over him. The homers and RBI's are not as valuable as you think either. How many guys hit 30 homers now a days? Many more than those who steal 30 bases. It's just the way it is. And average is over looked too often as well. You might only see the HR's and RBI's, average is just as important. If you don't like it, start speaking another language and try to get everyone else to speak it; otherwise, don't try to get smart because I prefer to speak in a language that everyone can understand.


you may be new.. NOBODY USES $ unless they are in an auction. In the "the fantasy baseball guide" which i just bought at walmart today, has Johnny Damon at $25 and Crawford at $22, i expect Crawford to be picked ahead of Damon by you. It has M Giles and Delgado both at 25 dollars. I assume they are equal on your list then huh???? I thought not
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Postby Grouperman941 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:38 pm

stabone76 wrote:
Erboes wrote:Stabone, that is not a good argument. It is like you are saying that you hate the English language so you are now going to speak nothing but Swahili. That is great -- if you are in Swahili. You can value players with any method you prefer, but when everyone else in the world uses $ values it may be wise to speak the same language.

The more I mess around with these formulas the more I realize it is pretty damn accurate. Stolen bases, whether you agree with it or not, are very valuable and they do affect values either for the good or for the bad. Boone had 4 more stolen bases then Giles, which accounts for most of Boone's excess value over him. The homers and RBI's are not as valuable as you think either. How many guys hit 30 homers now a days? Many more than those who steal 30 bases. It's just the way it is. And average is over looked too often as well. You might only see the HR's and RBI's, average is just as important. If you don't like it, start speaking another language and try to get everyone else to speak it; otherwise, don't try to get smart because I prefer to speak in a language that everyone can understand.



you may be new..



ROFL
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:41 pm

thats really pretty funny - a guy who has a total of 8 days here is calling someone else new.
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Postby stabone76 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:11 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:thats really pretty funny - a guy who has a total of 8 days here is calling someone else new.


Sorry , i meant NEW to having a brain. i didnt mean to speak above you.. when you get used toyours let me know.
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Postby Erboes » Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:12 pm

Arg, Stabone, your logic is driving me crazy.

$ values are used to rank players and use them as a guide for auctions. Is there anyone else here at the Cafe who doesn't know this? Good heavens, Stabone, it's like I'm teaching remedial fantasy baseball here. And you think I'm new? Man, that's funny.
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Postby Sreit160 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:25 pm

Obviously it's early but this is how I see it right now...
1. Soriano--but in my league his k's hurt big time
2. Boone
3. Kent
4. Giles
5. Vidro
6. Castillo
7. Reyes
8. Young
9. Loretta
10. Spivey
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Postby stabone76 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:27 pm

Erboes wrote:Arg, Stabone, your logic is driving me crazy.

$ values are used to rank players and use them as a guide for auctions. Is there anyone else here at the Cafe who doesn't know this? Good heavens, Stabone, it's like I'm teaching remedial fantasy baseball here. And you think I'm new? Man, that's funny.


you mental marshmellow, i know its for auctions, I SAID THAT TO YOU. A draft IS NOT AN AUCTION!!! If i got in a league with you i would tear you up
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Postby Grouperman941 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:17 pm

stabone76 wrote: If i got in a league with you i would tear you up



I suspect a spelling bee would be a different story.
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Postby stabone76 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:55 pm

Grouperman941 wrote:
stabone76 wrote: If i got in a league with you i would tear you up



I suspect a spelling bee would be a different story.


No, i mean i would make him cry, thanks
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