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Postby ssjl » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:00 am

What is the reason most people are drafting him high in the mocks ? I think he is garbage-weak on K's-Over 4 ERA last year & he probably will stuggle to win 15 this year. Your thoughts ?
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Postby kentx12 » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:19 am

A great sleeper. Pitched very poorly the 1st half of the season but came on nicely at the end. He wont get you many k's but should rebound to have a nice year.
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Postby tlef316 » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:28 am

he is young and has won 19 games. he pitched well to end last year. that is why i took him in the middle rounds of my keeper draft. im very happy with him as my 4th starter
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Postby GSes » Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:48 am

sleeper and he is very young still

I think
17 wins
3.70 ERA
1.20 Whip
140 K's

Are very possible
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Postby CrimeDog » Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:36 am

Definitely not a strikeout pitcher, but I traded for him near the end of the year last year and he pitched very well down the strech which leads me to believe he'll bounce back this year.
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Postby Sticky Spice » Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:39 am

Great 3-category pitcher that racks up IP. A perfect piece for a championship staff.

Did I mention he gets to pitch in the AL Central? B-)
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Postby trevisc » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:10 am

I can't imagine him going too high. Last year he showed that he is vulnerable and although he did bounce back nicely I don't think i'll take him anywhere in my top 18 picks
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Postby prodpaul » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:25 am

I wouldn't touch him until the 25th round but that is just me.
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Postby stumpak » Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:29 am

Garbage, I agree. Who wants a lot of innings from that guy? He kills you in Ks, and last year in ERA too. You may get OK win production, but he kills you in other places. Kinda like a pitcher version of Adam Dunn.
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Postby Jackie Treehorn » Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:40 am

Just shows you what one off year can do. The guy won 16 and 19 games the two years prior, had era's of about 3.00 and 3.50, pitched over 200 innings, and now he's "garbage". He's a good value pick, you'll get him later than he should go.
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