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Can we veto this?

Postby Johanna » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:51 pm

Team A is always top 2 in the rankings. He is going to get:

Miguel Tejada and Manny Ramirez
for
Fuentes, Glaus and Jojima.

I'm worried that if the trade goes through, it will eliminate competition.
Is it vetoable based on the lopsidedness of the trade itself and/or elimination of competition? Just the former? or not at all?
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby Oatsdad » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:07 pm

I don't think it should be vetoed, especially not as punishment because the guy's doing well!
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby Johanna » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:21 pm

Okay forgetting about the competitiveness factor...what about the lopsidedness?

Manny's and Tejada's numbers appear to be mid-level
this half of the season. However, if you look at their stats over the
last ten years, they speak for themselves. These guys are perennial
and consistent 100 RBI hitters, 30+ HR hitters (manny) (tejada is more
like 25+), and .300+ BA.

Fuentes is a legit piece. Glaus is a legit power
hitter, but he's often injured and Jojima is okay. But do the three
together equal Manny and Tejada?

While numbers-wise on the surface the trade looks fair, over the years
and with more than half a season left, could this trade be considered lopsided enough to nix?
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby Oatsdad » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:37 pm

I think only really really really extreme trades should be vetoed. I'm talking Paul Bako for Albert Pujols and Jake Peavy territory. This isn't extreme. Vetos are WAY overused and shouldn't be such a tool... :t
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby Lofunzo » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:41 pm

Out of curiosity, who does the owner getting Johjima currently have at C??
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby Johanna » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:10 am

He's got C. Ruiz and G. Laird.
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby pokerplaya » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:55 am

Johanna wrote:He's got C. Ruiz and G. Laird.


He is clearly filling a need. No, you can't veto this.
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby toledomudhens » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:50 pm

agreed, do not veto this trade just cause he is in first place.. to me that has to be a real cheap move by other ownwers.... veto's are only used if collusion is suspected or like one guy said, bako for pujols...
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby CBMGreatOne » Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:21 pm

This is a heavily lopsided trade and I would veto. If the league votes it down, it should be gone, but I'd put it to a vote. Mine would be veto though.
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Re: Can we veto this?

Postby Lofunzo » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:36 am

CBMGreatOne wrote:This is a heavily lopsided trade and I would veto. If the league votes it down, it should be gone, but I'd put it to a vote. Mine would be veto though.


How can you make a blind veto without knowing needs?? It was already determined that he improved at C. What if he needed help at RP as well and had some extra OF?? You can't just say veto just to veto.
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