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by **Yoda** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:22 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
The Triad wrote:Sorry wrong link

viewtopic.php?t=276863

umm he is still throwing in the mid 90's

Yeah it's clearly not the velocity that is the problem.

by **fbc_fan** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:47 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
noseeum wrote:I just picked him up off the wire in a 10 team MLB league. Nice!

you are kidding right

happened to me too. about a month ago he hit waivers because the owner kept asking for too much in trades and then finally got sick of him. i personally wouldn't have dropped him, but i'm enjoying his production since i picked him up.

i just wish he'd get his BB/9 under control. it seems to be the only thing holding him back. all of his other stats seem to be just fine.

by **Zito is God** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:26 pm

I don't get why Tampa wanted to wotk on his mechanics when at 22 last season he had a great year for his development. I think that really messed him up, he's thinking too much. He has been fairly good as of late and I believe it is due to the fact that he stated he is going back to his old mechanics.

by **Yoda** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:06 pm

Zito is God wrote:I don't get why Tampa wanted to wotk on his mechanics when at 22 last season he had a great year for his development. I think that really messed him up, he's thinking too much. He has been fairly good as of late and I believe it is due to the fact that he stated he is going back to his old mechanics.

They thought it was causing his shoulder pains... Honestly though as a selfish owner, I'd rather him pitch well like he is now and go on the DL if need be rather than have him pitch like dog poop and stay healthy.

by **The Triad** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:05 am

Yoda wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
The Triad wrote:Sorry wrong link

viewtopic.php?t=276863

umm he is still throwing in the mid 90's

Yeah it's clearly not the velocity that is the problem.

His velocity and location have looked much better as of late........but it was clearly not the case earlier this year.

by **Yoda** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:26 am

The Triad wrote:His velocity and location have looked much better as of late........but it was clearly not the case earlier this year.

Trust me. I had him last year and also this year so I've watched almost every start. Velocity had nothing to do with his struggles.

by **kellythemick** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:33 am

While he has looked a lot better since his return to his old mechanics the 113 in 6.2 innings last night is pretty high again - though the 6.2 is still better than earlier this year.

by **cwrtlm** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:02 am

What killed him last night was lack of run support. If he had some runs to play with I think he probably wouldn't have pressed as much to hit his spots. Alot of his walks were from full counts, just pressed to make the perfect pitch and missed. He has a tough assignment with the Sox and Dice-gay coming up.

by **deerayfan072** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:23 pm

cwrtlm wrote:What killed him last night was lack of run support. If he had some runs to play with I think he probably wouldn't have pressed as much to hit his spots. Alot of his walks were from full counts, just pressed to make the perfect pitch and missed. He has a tough assignment with the Sox and Dice-gay coming up.

agree with this totally

Also, what Yoda is saying also totally true on everything he has said. I have seen everyone of Kaz's starts and the ones at home up close. I ahve seen the guy throw bullpen sessions, his velocity is not the problem. The mechanics were part to relievr stress on his arm, but also to allow him to hit the outside corner better with his slider, but I think he was over thinking