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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:37 pm

Amazinz wrote:It seems like every guy in the majors stares down his homers nowadays. What Lo Duca did is par for the course and wasn't anymore pronounced than what the Phillies had done in the series, including Rollins fist pumping. I don't know how much of this is Hamels and how much is the reporter but Hamels should just man up and shut up. He got owned in that inning, badly, but his team came back and picked him up. Seems like a dumb thing to dwell on. And the implication that Lo Duca should be worried is laughable. Maybe if this was the 80s or earlier but if Hamels drills Lo Duca in his first AB next game, he's liable to get thrown out.


see, i think theres a difference between a geniune, excited fist pump and a long flip of the bat. i realize he was excited, as anyone should be. but there's a difference between being excited and 100 % trying to show up the pitcher. the flip was 100 % intentional and in my opinion directed toward the phillies. cole is not one to show anyone up out there either. i could understand if it was zambrano or scott olsen whoopin and hollerin out there, but it wasnt. i think it just shows a lack of class. cole needs to plunk him next time out but not in the 1st inning. do it when it's 7-1 phils in the 8th and cole's still goin strong, then it wont matter :D
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby raygunpunx » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:38 pm

Amazinz wrote:It seems like every guy in the majors stares down his homers nowadays. What Lo Duca did is par for the course and wasn't anymore pronounced than what the Phillies had done in the series, including Rollins fist pumping. I don't know how much of this is Hamels and how much is the reporter but Hamels should just man up and shut up. He got owned in that inning, badly, but his team came back and picked him up. Seems like a dumb thing to dwell on. And the implication that Lo Duca should be worried is laughable. Maybe if this was the 80s or earlier but if Hamels drills Lo Duca in his first AB next game, he's liable to get thrown out.


Then I guess you have no problem with Arod celebrating after he hit a grand slam off Soler in which Duca was complaining
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby Amazinz » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:44 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:see, i think theres a difference between a geniune, excited fist pump and a long flip of the bat.

Yeah, OK. And what about the stare downs on the Philly HRs that series? Was there a difference there too or you just chose not to notice them? ;)
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby Pochucker » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:08 pm

Lets not forget (im Mets fan) that LoDuca is same guy who had big problem with A-Rod last year "admiring" one of his HRs.
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby teddy ballgame » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:49 pm

Pochucker wrote:Lets not forget (im Mets fan) that LoDuca is same guy who had big problem with A-Rod last year "admiring" one of his HRs.

Then he's a hypocrite, but I still see nothing wrong with what he did. If I'm not mistaken (I very well could be because I don't follow the Phils) it seems like every time they show a highlight of a Ryan Howard home run, he's staring at the ball for a few seconds.
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby Amazinz » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:14 pm

Yeah Howard is the worst star gazer on the Phils. And maybe Lo Duca is a hypocrite but that doesn't change much. Also, not that this makes it more wrong or more right, but there were a different set of circumstances with that Arod GS. That 8th inning had started out with the Mets down 8-7. By the time Arod came to bat the game was basically done (12 - 7) and then Arod hit the GS and was theatric about it. Personally I didn't care and all Lo Duca said was act like you've been there. For the record, I don't think Lo Duca had ever been part of a back-to-back-to-back. :D
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby raygunpunx » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:44 pm

Amazinz wrote:Yeah Howard is the worst star gazer on the Phils. And maybe Lo Duca is a hypocrite but that doesn't change much. Also, not that this makes it more wrong or more right, but there were a different set of circumstances with that Arod GS. That 8th inning had started out with the Mets down 8-7. By the time Arod came to bat the game was basically done (12 - 7) and then Arod hit the GS and was theatric about it. Personally I didn't care and all Lo Duca said was act like you've been there. For the record, I don't think Lo Duca had ever been part of a back-to-back-to-back. :D



When Arod hit the grand slam the Yanks were down 4-2
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby joecahill » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:06 pm

If Hamels didn't want any bat flipping, he should have tried not channeling Chase Wright in this situation; COLE: here's a tip. I think they're onto your "low and down Broadway" strategy...
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Pitchers do this garbage pretty regularly. Whether they're doing it during a game or at the end of it, shut your gap, keep your hands to yourself, and walk off the mound. Then batters might not stare your HRs down as they're leaving the park.
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby Amazinz » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:08 pm

Well whatever. If that's the case then Lo Duca was hypocritical in his actions but that doesn't exornerate Hamels.
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Re: Hamels Peeved at LoDuca

Postby smoovethug » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:16 pm

joecahill wrote:I think they're onto your "low and down Broadway" strategy...


Are they? They couldn't score before that inning or the one inning he pitched after that one. His career ERA against the mets is 2.14 and his ERA this year still stands at 3.57, so I'd argue that for the most part hitters are NOT on to his "strategy". ;)

joecahill wrote:Pitchers do this garbage pretty regularly. Whether they're doing it during a game or at the end of it, shut your gap, keep your hands to yourself, and walk off the mound. Then batters might not stare your HRs down as they're leaving the park.


Find me a pic of Cole Hamels doing that.
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