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by Athrun340 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:55 pm
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by RocketsDWM » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:08 pm
Everyone. No one can be cleared who played in the juiced ball era.
But some that I think def. did (again, speculation)
Sosa
Clemens
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by PlayingWithFire » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:37 pm
Here's 2 others...
Guillermo Mota
Clay Hensley
don't give me that innocent until guilty crap...they are proven guilty(although they didn't say what drug with Mota, hmmm?) already.
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by LukeW9027 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:59 pm
GiantsFan14 wrote:chadlincoln wrote:Aren't we forgetting the big elephant in the room?
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i'm pretty sure nobody is forgetting him, we've just already had hundreds of pages of discussion on it already so apparently you're the only one who feels theres a need for more of it
I think we need more of it. The question was who we speculate as a steriod user and Bonds hasnt been mentioned yet. He is as close as you can get as a lock to past steroid use.

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by mweir145 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:18 pm
LukeW9027 wrote:GiantsFan14 wrote:chadlincoln wrote:Aren't we forgetting the big elephant in the room?
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i'm pretty sure nobody is forgetting him, we've just already had hundreds of pages of discussion on it already so apparently you're the only one who feels theres a need for more of it
I think we need more of it. The question was who we speculate as a steriod user and Bonds hasnt been mentioned yet. He is as close as you can get as a lock to past steroid use.
You think there's a need for more discussion? Well why don't you start. What more about Bonds is there to talk about?
Also...what is the purpose of this thread? It's too hard to specify or even put a number on how many players have used steroids/HGH over the years, so why even make it a point of discussion? Why does anybody care who used steroids and who didn't? If they've declined (which really isn't a huge indication of steroid use anyways, players decline for many other reasons), then that's all that really matters for fantasy purposes.
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by dynastykid22 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:23 pm
Try any dominant pitcher from this era... along with the majority of the power hitters... a
Harden, Prior, and Wood come to mind

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by doyourealize1 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:42 pm
dynastykid22 wrote:Try any dominant pitcher from this era... along with the majority of the power hitters... a
Harden, Prior, and Wood come to mind 
You have to actually be able to
pitch in a game to be a dominant pitcher

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by dclark0699 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:15 pm
I have to say that it is ridiculous to condemn all of these players with absolutely no proof. Just because a guy got big over time, or had only one good year, or has begun to decline does not mean they took steroids...it is the circle of life.
Did you ever think that maybe...just MAYBE these players got this way because they worked for it? Is it possible that some of them workout all the time and try to be good at what they do just like anyone would.
Everyone is a litte to quick to place the steroid label on players simply because they hit 35-40 HR.
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