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Postby angels7777 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:14 pm

Is this trade vetoable in a H2H 5x5 non-keeper?

A-Rod/K-Rod/Upton/Harang for Vlad/Rivera/Kinsler/Mussina?

It seems like one team is downgrading every player in the trade....
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby JTWood » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:13 pm

Only veto if you think these teams are colluding. Do you think they are?
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby Danger » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:42 pm

No I wouldn't veto. I'd only veto if there's collusion or if it's extremely lopsided.
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby Dislexic Irishman » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:13 am

Trade makes no sense. Looks just fair enough to get through, and maybe thats the idea :? . Tough to say without knowing more about the league and people involved.
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby talan37 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:49 am

As you said, the first guy is literally doing a 1-1 and losing every part....think of it this way, is there anyone who would really want the second half of any of those trades?
Arod for vlad
krod for Rivera
Upton for Kinsler
harang for mussina

I think I would honestly ask the guys reasoning for wanting vlad,rivera,kinsler,mussina over the other 4. If his reasoning didn't have atleast some credibility I would probably veto.

One a single basis they aren't that lopsided, but when you consider that the one guy is losing out on every trade it just stinks of something fishy....
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby Lofunzo » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:28 pm

I wouldn't make this trade but I also wouldn't veto it.
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby Chip1010 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:34 am

It's close. It's a terrible deal. As a dude above me mentioned, the guy getting the Vlad side is not getting an upgrade anywhere. With a trade involving eight players, there's usually a significant upgrade at a certain position that makes dealing superior players reasonable. I'm not seeing it here.

It's not the worst I've seen, but it's highly suspicious.
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby CBMGreatOne » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:37 pm

I don't know how someone could look at that trade and not think veto.

Each player on one side is better than each player on the other. Makes no sense whatsoever and is probably collusion.
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby Lofunzo » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:46 pm

CBMGreatOne wrote:I don't know how someone could look at that trade and not think veto.

Each player on one side is better than each player on the other. Makes no sense whatsoever and is probably collusion.


I disagree. Stupid?? Sure. Collusion?? I don't think so. I have never been part of collusion but, if I was, I surely wouldn't be giving up Vlad.
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Re: Got Veto?

Postby CBMGreatOne » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:55 pm

Lofunzo wrote:
CBMGreatOne wrote:I don't know how someone could look at that trade and not think veto.

Each player on one side is better than each player on the other. Makes no sense whatsoever and is probably collusion.


I disagree. Stupid?? Sure. Collusion?? I don't think so. I have never been part of collusion but, if I was, I surely wouldn't be giving up Vlad.


There are many different types of collusive deals. There need not be sincerely terrible intent from both teams. I guess "probably" was an exaggeration, but there's a good chance, in my mind, that collusion is taking place. I would veto even if not, but that's a personal opinion. Taken as a whole this is an "extremely lopsided" deal.
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