See, this is what makes me laugh, when people try to compare numbers from the teens and 20's to current day..... you just can't do it.....IMO.
Exactly. It has to be Bonds, hands down. Then 500/500 Club should be enough for you right there. That kind of offensive weapon is just unheard of. Even great power/speed guys such as Mantle and Mays couldn't accomplish 500/500. Then, you throw in the Fact that Bonds' HR will soon be the Most ever. Stunning. And as said before, you just can't compare as far as stats. The competition today is so much greater, it is just a different game.
Plus, the evidence that gets me, is Intentional Walks. Bonds has had the bat stripped from his hands 665 times during his career. By looking at Bonds per at bat ratio's, here are his adjusted stats if you take away IBB:
797 HR, 2087 RBI
You get the Idea. Without IBB, Bonds would easily be the best power hitter ever. Which is all Ruth has on Bonds. Speed and Defense are no comparison.
Also, another point. Take Ray Durham/Moises Alou away behind Bonds and add in Lou Gehrig, you got a whole different ballgame. Sure, the Babe was easily the best power hitter of his time, but Gehrig was 2nd.(with possible exception of Foxx) Using baseballreference.com, the only current player on Gehrig's "similar batters" list was Frank Thomas. And Im sure you'll all remember how dominant Thomas was until the turn of the Century. Even 2000+, when he was healthy, was a lock for 35+ HR. Put him behind Bonds for all these years and Bonds would get a few more pitches to hit. I guarantee he wouldn't have 665 IBB, and would have probably easily eclipsed Aaron's record.
Again, nothing away from Ruth. He was a great player, he just didn't play in the same era. And when looking at Ruth, he hit HR. Thats what he was best at, his claim to fame. And if Barry Bonds has his beat so easily in that, there shouldn't even be a discussion here.
PS- Check out the book "Baseball: Between the Numbers" The prolouge is about 15 pages on this exact argument. And it's a great read anyway, for the hardcore baseball fan, that is.
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