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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby Rounders » Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:32 pm

I usually like shields, but he is a proven 1st half pitcher, and we're fastly approaching the 2nd half.
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby EP3 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:47 am

another nod for okajima. papelbon doesn't pitch back to back too often so okajima has been gettin a good amount of saves for a setup guy. he's solid.
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby Fugetaboutit » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:51 am

Im gonna go against the grain and say Betancourt. I think he has the best chance to get saves from this group of middle releivers you mentioned. His ratios also look stellar. Broxton I feel might have a shot to close as well if Saito's injury is more serious, or he just starts showing his age in the second half. I dont think either is too likely at this point, but I feel they have the best chance to get future saves this year.
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby itodd » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:40 pm

Nashek and Bell have been awesome for me this year ;)
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby KrunK » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:52 pm

I think I'm going to pick up Neshek. I just need to figure out who I want to drop for him. Maybe Dan Johnson, he's been slumping and there's a few solid, solid 1st baseman on the WW (unnoticed all year) that I can always grab at one time or another. I never even thought about using a setup man to lower your ERA and WHIP, but this is the first time I've truly played fantasy baseball so I shouldn't be surprised :*)
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby The Guru » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:42 am

samjerky wrote:Thanks for the tip. I just picked up Neshek.

Another tip for those who want to use it (and if you think it's not right to do it - then don't!) is to have enough relief pitchers to fill up your RP and P slots (in Yahoo), and then have a relief pitcher with SP elibility to put into one of your SP slots when you are only getting one start (which will be often). Some names (from top to bottom IMO) - Kevin Gregg, Brett Myers, Zack Greinke.

If you are in a roto league with innings limits, this may put you over your limit. But that's OK. You'll probably burn some of that off when someone goes on the DL, and if you don't, then you have the opportunity to trade for some extra offensive juice toward the end of the year, if you can make it happen.

Yeah its key to have one RP - closer or just middle relief with SP eligbility. Its rare that you have 2 starters going the same day so that gives you 1sp, 2rp,3p pitching everyday with RP.
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby EP3 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:44 am

i think we can take broxton off this list
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby theultimate69 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:59 am

EP3 wrote:i think we can take broxton off this list


I would think most people would agree with me that this is just a rough patch for Broxton, and he will soon reverse his fortune and resume his role as a very dependable set-up man and future closer.

I mean, all of these ER's have come in the past 10 days, at the most. Before late May, his ERA was in the low 1's.

In fact, I'd argue that Broxton is a great buy low candidate right now. Anyone else agree?
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby abrunn11 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:21 am

Be careful with Heath Bell. Tell me whick of these years sticks out to you as being abnormal.

Year Team G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA
2004 NYM 17 0 0 2 0 0 0 24.1 22 9 9 5 6 27 3.33 1.15 .253
2005 NYM 42 0 1 3 0 0 0 46.2 56 30 29 3 13 43 5.59 1.48 .298
2006 NYM 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 37.0 51 25 21 6 11 35 5.11 1.68 .331
2007 SD 28 0 0 2 0 0 0 34.0 20 4 4 1 7 38 1.06 0.79 .175

Couple the with the fact that he his on the wrong side of 30 and you have a blow-up waiting to happen. Maybe I am wrong and he will continue to have a stellar year, I am just telling you to be careful.
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Re: Improving ERA and WHIP: Who is the best middle relief guy?

Postby kaiser » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:25 am

Hey, this has turned into a much more interesting conversation than I originally anticipated.

I agree that Broxton is just in a rough spot right now. He wouldn't be a bad candidate to stash, as a wait and see to be sure Saito's arm is okay when he start pitching in games again (probably tonight).

I would say the top middle relievers right now are (in no particular order) Okajima Linebrink, Rincon, Neshek, Soriano, Shields, Broxton.
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