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Postby itodd » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:36 pm

Yoda, we werent dissing BJ =at=all=. Incase you didn't read, both MTU and I have Upton and are high on him. I'm not quite sure why you are telling us about sample sizes and seeing him and such. Now to make this discussion more relevant, where do you see BJ placing in terms of 3b the rest of the year?
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Postby jswede » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:39 pm

MTUCache wrote:I'm putting Braun above Teahen... for the simple fact that he hits in a lineup which is going to provide him with many more opportunities for RBIs, Runs, etc.

Teahen will hit for good average, with good power, but the guys around him are downright awful.


yup - there's no pitching around Braun no matter how hot he gets.
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Postby RyeWhiskey » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:15 pm

Out of the 5 3Bmen mentioned, I'd rank as follows:

1. Braun (only #1 due to supporting cast).
2. Teahen (only #2 due to supporting cast).
3. Upton (he gets #3 because I see him slumping pretty hard soon).
4. Rolen (still has the capability for around .300 and some solid power numbers).
5. Zimmerman (solid hitter but disgusting supporting cast and miserable start).

None of these guys get up to ARod, MCab, Wright, ARam territory. And don't forget Youk, Lowell, Chipper, Beltre, and the second tier-3B.

Bottom line: 3B is deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. So don't trip over the bottom tier. If you're starting Braun, Upton, Teahen, etc... at 3B - fine, don't worry, they're still going to produce solid numbers all around.

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Postby talldarkandnerdy » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:19 pm

itodd wrote:
Yoda wrote:You guys need to watch Upton actually hit the ball instead of looking at the box score to determine how he is doing.



when theres a nationally televised Devil Rays game, lemme know :-B



Exactly my thoughts.
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Postby J.C.Fighter » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:20 pm

AngryMonkey wrote:Out of the 5 3Bmen mentioned, I'd rank as follows:

1. Braun (only #1 due to supporting cast).
2. Teahen (only #2 due to supporting cast).
3. Upton (he gets #3 because I see him slumping pretty hard soon).
4. Rolen (still has the capability for around .300 and some solid power numbers).
5. Zimmerman (solid hitter but disgusting supporting cast and miserable start).

None of these guys get up to ARod, MCab, Wright, ARam territory. And don't forget Youk, Lowell, Chipper, Beltre, and the second tier-3B.

Bottom line: 3B is deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. So don't trip over the bottom tier. If you're starting Braun, Upton, Teahen, etc... at 3B - fine, don't worry, they're still going to produce solid numbers all around.

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I find it rather ridiculous you have Zimmerman so low when he has better numbers than most of those guys....
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Postby giambiformvp » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:24 pm

Why Braun over Teahen? Just the supporting cast?
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Postby Rounders » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:39 pm

AngryMonkey wrote:Out of the 5 3Bmen mentioned, I'd rank as follows:

1. Braun (only #1 due to supporting cast).
2. Teahen (only #2 due to supporting cast).
3. Upton (he gets #3 because I see him slumping pretty hard soon).
4. Rolen (still has the capability for around .300 and some solid power numbers).
5. Zimmerman (solid hitter but disgusting supporting cast and miserable start).

None of these guys get up to ARod, MCab, Wright, ARam territory. And don't forget Youk, Lowell, Chipper, Beltre, and the second tier-3B.

Bottom line: 3B is deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. So don't trip over the bottom tier. If you're starting Braun, Upton, Teahen, etc... at 3B - fine, don't worry, they're still going to produce solid numbers all around.

- Monkey


I'd put Upton #2.
And I'd take pretty much any of these guys above Beltre. I am playing Braun in front of him currently.

itodd wrote:where does BJ Upton fit into the conversation? (am i the only person that uses him at 3rd?)


I'm playing Upton at 3B in one league, but only because I have Phillips at 2B with Kendrick on the bench. And the other 3B I drafted are Encarnacion (dropped), Gordon (bench - ready to drop), Tracy (DL).
And in one league he's playing at MI because I have Phillips at 2B, ARam at 3B, and Chipper at CI
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Postby YardBirds » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:46 pm

Is Chipper 2nd Tier due to his injury concerns.... because if those were not there, he's second round in my opinion.
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Postby Drunken Rhino » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:56 pm

Rounders wrote:
I'd put Upton #2.
And I'd take pretty much any of these guys above Beltre. I am playing Braun in front of him currently.



Because taking rookies over a guy who has career 2nd half #s of 282 avg, 340 obp and 483 slg is a good idea.
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Postby Yoda » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:17 am

Drunken Rhino wrote:
Rounders wrote:
I'd put Upton #2.
And I'd take pretty much any of these guys above Beltre. I am playing Braun in front of him currently.



Because taking rookies over a guy who has career 2nd half #s of 282 avg, 340 obp and 483 slg is a good idea.


Beltre is said to have a similar injury as Chipper's though. That could really hamper his production if true.
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