CBMGreatOne wrote:Very interesting. These guys obviously take their league very seriously and they've reached a consensus. There was an additional wrinkle to the deal other than the straight up player for player that seems to have swayed a lot of people who might have otherwise been on the fence which was the draft round swap, what is it exactly?
I heard a 9 round difference, but being removed from the situation, what is the pragmatic difference there?
I guess to me the deciding factor would be the level of activity of the manager giving up Zambrano. Is he like those of us here that pour blood sweat and tears into our teams or is he just some guy casually hitting the accept button out of indifference to the game?
I can't say for sure what I'd do, but if I were you I'd probably just let the matter lie or try to work a more favorable draft pick swap.
9 round difference originally. We keep 6 players and it's a 14 team league so we're talking a 4th rounder in the redraft so players 127-140 in next year's draft with the 4th rounder and players 280-293 with the 15th rounder.
Team A (my team) actually tried to compromise and bump the 15th rounder up to a 9th rounder (players 197-210). The compromise was also rejected by the consensus.
Team A is in 2nd place, is completely obsessive about the league and obnoxiously anal (as well as the worst sort of waiver wire vulture when it comes to closers) and has a ridiculous 139 moves on the year already. (It's alright to talk badly about someone when it's you ).
Team B is in 5th place, is a very active fantasy manager and has 51 moves on the year.
Both Team A and Team B have been in the league for well over a year (longer for Team B) and have been active positive members in the league.
As for letting the matter lie, that's exactly what I plan on doing now that even the compromise has been rejected. As I mentioned, missing out on the trade doesn't hurt my team in my opinion. I could care less on that regard as I wasn't sure about the deal to begin with but the lottery ticket that is Zambrano was too good to pass up given the fact that the pick upgrade would make up most of what I would be losing by not being able to deal someone for picks at the end of the year.
I am however livid about what this means for the future of the league. I've always thought this league would be a great place to be around for the long haul. Now? I'm just not so sure. I'm very much a believer in vetoes being for illegal activity (collusion, player dumping, etc) and that's IT. I firmly believe that owners should be able to have their own valuations on players even if those valuations go against the norm. If you don't let people value players differently than the consensus then that leads to very boring leagues where you have straight-up value for value trades supplementing paint-by-number drafts. I'd much rather see people going out on a limb, trying things out of the ordinary and seeing how their team fares. I'm just not sure if this league will allow that anymore and I'm very disappointed by that fact.