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Postby AcidRock23 » Wed May 30, 2007 10:42 am

Madison wrote:Now if you want to debate that specific point and say the United States is supposed to cater to her every whim and desire, fire away and I'll read it while chuckling. Otherwise, I have no desire to discuss the situation any further as it never leads to anything good or worthwhile.


I would argue that her point could be construed to include the fact that it seems at least possible that a majority of us are now in agreement with her even though the *'majority' (sic?) of 'us' voted for the dubster and his flying monkeys in the last presidential elections. I agree that the numbers are too close to call and that it is deplorable that turnout is so low but I am kind of convinced that a national strategy focusing on yields and investments would be better than foreign policy adventurism.
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Postby Amazinz » Wed May 30, 2007 11:13 am

The Big Train wrote:But they seem trivial in the broader context of being arrested over a t-shirt (I wonder how the Founders would have reacted to this?!).


To be completely fair, she was not arrested over a T-shirt. They asked her to cover it up, per the rules. She refused and was arrested. You may still disagree with it but I believe it's a little dishonest to say she was arrested over a T-shirt.

AcidRock23 wrote:I would argue that her point could be construed to include the fact that it seems at least possible that a majority of us are now in agreement with her even though the *'majority' (sic?) of 'us' voted for the dubster and his flying monkeys in the last presidential elections.


I think initially that the majority was in agreement with her point but it seems to me that her point got obfuscated by the presentation.
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Postby Madison » Wed May 30, 2007 11:16 am

AcidRock23 wrote:
Madison wrote:Now if you want to debate that specific point and say the United States is supposed to cater to her every whim and desire, fire away and I'll read it while chuckling. Otherwise, I have no desire to discuss the situation any further as it never leads to anything good or worthwhile.


I would argue that her point could be construed to include the fact that it seems at least possible that a majority of us are now in agreement with her even though the *'majority' (sic?) of 'us' voted for the dubster and his flying monkeys in the last presidential elections. I agree that the numbers are too close to call and that it is deplorable that turnout is so low but I am kind of convinced that a national strategy focusing on yields and investments would be better than foreign policy adventurism.


Again though, where did I say anything about her stance on the "war"?

I said that the country is not here to cater to her every whim and desire.

I think you guys are quoting me and then ignoring what's actually written just to try to drive me crazy. :-b Too late for that, I was crazy a long time ago. :-b
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Postby josebach » Wed May 30, 2007 11:18 am

Madison wrote:You think we should be out, I think we should go full scale and end this quick.


My dad said the same thing and I'll ask you the same question I asked him. How? Full scale? Who do you target? Indiscriminate bombing of Sunni neighborhoods?

That would start World War III.
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Postby Madison » Wed May 30, 2007 11:29 am

josebach wrote:
Madison wrote:You think we should be out, I think we should go full scale and end this quick.


My dad said the same thing and I'll ask you the same question I asked him. How? Full scale? Who do you target? Indiscriminate bombing of Sunni neighborhoods?

That would start World War III.


Let's just say the majority of the country couldn't stomach it, because it would certainly be a war scenario and not a policing action like it currently is. I can send it via PM this evening (possibly - if I have time) if you like even though I've probably already posted it up somewhere here in GT.
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Postby 5 » Wed May 30, 2007 11:35 am

josebach wrote:
Madison wrote:You think we should be out, I think we should go full scale and end this quick.


My dad said the same thing and I'll ask you the same question I asked him. How? Full scale? Who do you target? Indiscriminate bombing of Sunni neighborhoods?

That would start World War III.


We had a shot go "full scale" or at least attempt to handle things (or spread freedom or whatever) with the proper # of troops with the proper equipment but someone didn't listen. So how is this surge idea working anyway?

And people want Sheehan to go away?
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Postby AcidRock23 » Wed May 30, 2007 11:37 am

Madison wrote:Again though, where did I say anything about her stance on the "war"?

I said that the country is not here to cater to her every whim and desire.

I think you guys are quoting me and then ignoring what's actually written just to try to drive me crazy. :-b Too late for that, I was crazy a long time ago. :-b


But 'the war' is implied in 'her' as Cindy Sheehan's rise to public prominence is solely based on her position as a war protester which seems to have been engendered by the president's refusal to meet her demand to speak to her when he was riding high, pwning democrats and other hippies.
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