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Postby Ursa » Mon May 28, 2007 2:43 pm

Why doesn't Hit By Pitch count as a walk? After all, that's exactly what the batter gets. Surely the batter should be credited with a walk and the pitcher demerited likewise. Seems weird to me - basically HBP appears nowhere in any stats.
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Re: Hit by pitch

Postby Slevin Kelevra » Mon May 28, 2007 2:56 pm

Ursa wrote:Why doesn't Hit By Pitch count as a walk? After all, that's exactly what the batter gets. Surely the batter should be credited with a walk and the pitcher demerited likewise. Seems weird to me - basically HBP appears nowhere in any stats.


OBP: (H + BB + HBP) / (AB + BB + HBP + SF)
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Re: Hit by pitch

Postby Ursa » Mon May 28, 2007 3:18 pm

Slevin Kelevra wrote:
Ursa wrote:Why doesn't Hit By Pitch count as a walk? After all, that's exactly what the batter gets. Surely the batter should be credited with a walk and the pitcher demerited likewise. Seems weird to me - basically HBP appears nowhere in any stats.


OBP: (H + BB + HBP) / (AB + BB + HBP + SF)


Oops, forgot that. Thanks.

Still, I think it should count as a walk against the pitcher.
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Re: Hit by pitch

Postby Amatter32 » Mon May 28, 2007 3:19 pm

Ursa wrote:
Slevin Kelevra wrote:
Ursa wrote:Why doesn't Hit By Pitch count as a walk? After all, that's exactly what the batter gets. Surely the batter should be credited with a walk and the pitcher demerited likewise. Seems weird to me - basically HBP appears nowhere in any stats.


OBP: (H + BB + HBP) / (AB + BB + HBP + SF)


Oops, forgot that. Thanks.

Still, I think it should count as a walk against the pitcher.


Why? It counts as an HB already.
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Re: Hit by pitch

Postby biggamer3 » Mon May 28, 2007 3:33 pm

Ursa wrote:
Slevin Kelevra wrote:
Ursa wrote:Why doesn't Hit By Pitch count as a walk? After all, that's exactly what the batter gets. Surely the batter should be credited with a walk and the pitcher demerited likewise. Seems weird to me - basically HBP appears nowhere in any stats.


OBP: (H + BB + HBP) / (AB + BB + HBP + SF)


Oops, forgot that. Thanks.

Still, I think it should count as a walk against the pitcher.


Totally agree it should count as a BB for the pitcher, no reason why it doesnt count min WHip
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Postby SpecialFNK » Mon May 28, 2007 3:57 pm

this really isnt a HB/BB arguement, but something about HB that i dont like.
when a player with a lose jersey has the ball hit the jersey while its flapping open but doesnt touch any part of the batter, yet the batter is awarded 1st on HB. im sorry, but thats BS!
im surprised MLB doesnt make players tuck in their jerseys more or have umpires use their discretion on wheather the ball hit the jersey or the batter. if it only hit the jersey and not the batter, thats a ball, not a HB.
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Re: Hit by pitch

Postby nebgib5 » Mon May 28, 2007 5:28 pm

biggamer3 wrote:
Ursa wrote:
Slevin Kelevra wrote:
Ursa wrote:Why doesn't Hit By Pitch count as a walk? After all, that's exactly what the batter gets. Surely the batter should be credited with a walk and the pitcher demerited likewise. Seems weird to me - basically HBP appears nowhere in any stats.


OBP: (H + BB + HBP) / (AB + BB + HBP + SF)


Oops, forgot that. Thanks.

Still, I think it should count as a walk against the pitcher.


Totally agree it should count as a BB for the pitcher, no reason why it doesnt count min WHip


for whip, maybe it's to balance out the fact that intentional walks count (even though ordered by the manager)?
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