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Postby abrunn11 » Sat May 26, 2007 3:20 pm

And how can I not handle the answers? The same guy that doesn;t put him in the top 7 pitchers thinks you should get frist and second round players for him. Does this seem reasonable? Please tell me, who is going to trade Ryan Howard for Felix? Who is going to trade Grady Sizemore for Felix? NOBODY IS. And if there is someone, please direct me to their league so I can severely beat them year in and year out.
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Postby RynoDyno » Sat May 26, 2007 3:20 pm

to answer your question, i would trade him off for a top flight player right now and nothing less. i am talking carlos lee, carlos beltran, crawford, sizemore, howard on the cheap. guys that are just below the top of the top as felix still has a lot of pull even though he doesnt truly deserve it.[/quote]

S I have a hard time believing someone would part with Lee, Beltran, Crawford, Sizemore or Howard for the the likes of Felix. Should I try and get Pujols straight up for him? How about Johan or Peavy?[/quote]

Your q's are of the not so good variety. Quoting, questioning, and quiche.

Work on your q's then we'll go backward to the p's. Posting, pontificating and paprika.
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Postby Yoda » Sat May 26, 2007 3:45 pm

abrunn11 wrote:And how can I not handle the answers? The same guy that doesn;t put him in the top 7 pitchers thinks you should get frist and second round players for him. Does this seem reasonable? Please tell me, who is going to trade Ryan Howard for Felix? Who is going to trade Grady Sizemore for Felix? NOBODY IS. And if there is someone, please direct me to their league so I can severely beat them year in and year out.


You should just drop him.
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Postby rjforlife » Sat May 26, 2007 3:51 pm

Yoda wrote:
abrunn11 wrote:And how can I not handle the answers? The same guy that doesn;t put him in the top 7 pitchers thinks you should get frist and second round players for him. Does this seem reasonable? Please tell me, who is going to trade Ryan Howard for Felix? Who is going to trade Grady Sizemore for Felix? NOBODY IS. And if there is someone, please direct me to their league so I can severely beat them year in and year out.


You should just drop him.


dump his sorry ass....i gurantee no one will pick him up.


seriously though....I dont think he is all that great, but people in your league might. i know a lot of people are very high on him and consider him a top 5 pitcher. crawford, sizemore, c. lee are not first rounders. they are second rounders and if you have felix in the top 5 he is 3rd round material. now in a trade, the point is to get someone BETTER than whom you are trading, otherwise there is no reason to trade. so my whole point is that you should try for the guys i mentioned, and if you can not get them, DONT TRADE FELIX.
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Postby The Jury » Sat May 26, 2007 4:31 pm

rjforlife wrote:
Yoda wrote:
abrunn11 wrote:And how can I not handle the answers? The same guy that doesn;t put him in the top 7 pitchers thinks you should get frist and second round players for him. Does this seem reasonable? Please tell me, who is going to trade Ryan Howard for Felix? Who is going to trade Grady Sizemore for Felix? NOBODY IS. And if there is someone, please direct me to their league so I can severely beat them year in and year out.


You should just drop him.


dump his sorry ass....i gurantee no one will pick him up.


seriously though....I dont think he is all that great, but people in your league might. i know a lot of people are very high on him and consider him a top 5 pitcher. crawford, sizemore, c. lee are not first rounders. they are second rounders and if you have felix in the top 5 he is 3rd round material. now in a trade, the point is to get someone BETTER than whom you are trading, otherwise there is no reason to trade. so my whole point is that you should try for the guys i mentioned, and if you can not get them, DONT TRADE FELIX.


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Re: King Felix

Postby pokerplaya » Sat May 26, 2007 4:45 pm

abrunn11 wrote:Do you try and get what you can for him or will he turn it around. I am really concerned with his proneness to injury thus far. What do you guys think?


Turn what around? He is pitching fine.
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Postby abrunn11 » Sat May 26, 2007 5:20 pm

rjforlife wrote:
Yoda wrote:
abrunn11 wrote:And how can I not handle the answers? The same guy that doesn;t put him in the top 7 pitchers thinks you should get frist and second round players for him. Does this seem reasonable? Please tell me, who is going to trade Ryan Howard for Felix? Who is going to trade Grady Sizemore for Felix? NOBODY IS. And if there is someone, please direct me to their league so I can severely beat them year in and year out.


You should just drop him.


dump his sorry ass....i gurantee no one will pick him up.


seriously though....I dont think he is all that great, but people in your league might. i know a lot of people are very high on him and consider him a top 5 pitcher. crawford, sizemore, c. lee are not first rounders. they are second rounders and if you have felix in the top 5 he is 3rd round material. now in a trade, the point is to get someone BETTER than whom you are trading, otherwise there is no reason to trade. so my whole point is that you should try for the guys i mentioned, and if you can not get them, DONT TRADE FELIX.


I said they were second rounders. In a non-keeper league this may be putting too much value on Felix. At this point, I would be happy with getting guys like ARam, Pronk and D Lee for him. Now maybe I have him under valued, that is why I am trying to take the temperature of other's perceived value of him. Any rate, I appreciate the response.
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Postby abrunn11 » Sat May 26, 2007 5:21 pm

Yoda wrote:
abrunn11 wrote:And how can I not handle the answers? The same guy that doesn;t put him in the top 7 pitchers thinks you should get frist and second round players for him. Does this seem reasonable? Please tell me, who is going to trade Ryan Howard for Felix? Who is going to trade Grady Sizemore for Felix? NOBODY IS. And if there is someone, please direct me to their league so I can severely beat them year in and year out.


You should just drop him.


Wow, two really helpful posts from you. Thanks for the contribution.
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Re: King Felix

Postby abrunn11 » Sat May 26, 2007 5:24 pm

pokerplaya wrote:
abrunn11 wrote:Do you try and get what you can for him or will he turn it around. I am really concerned with his proneness to injury thus far. What do you guys think?


Turn what around? He is pitching fine.


I guess I am still factoring in last season as well as his last few starts. I have not seen him pitch first hand, but it sounds like he has really struggled with his control. Going back to last year, he has not been anywhere near the pitcher he was his rookie year and in the minors. I guess that is what i mean by "turn it around"
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Postby duckbillgates » Sat May 26, 2007 5:35 pm

I would say now is exactly the wrong time to trade Felix. As you mentioned in a couple of unnecessarily snide comments, you aren't likely to get a top-flight, second-round-type bat for him, which is what he is still worth.

This latest injury will push his perceived value down, even though it is unrelated to his earlier injury, has nothing to do with his pitching arm and seems quite minor.

He didn't pitch for a month and needs to find his rhythm again. Given the starts he's already missed, his inning total will stay reasonable on the year. It seems more likely than not that he will hit a stretch of dominance and not look back.
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