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Postby godallahstar » Wed May 23, 2007 6:16 pm

maybe the devil rays shouldn't have stopped paying for his therapy.
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Postby Mayor Daley » Wed May 23, 2007 6:18 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:The Rays are going to take a wait and see approach since he was not arrested. He is not in the lineup tonight, but will be tommorow. They are under a lot of pressure by many people to keep him off the field, but they are also under pressure from the MLB players union to keep him playing, and we ll know that union is very strong.


Which lineup? Police or MLB? :-B
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Postby Danger » Wed May 23, 2007 6:24 pm

Mayor Daley wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:The Rays are going to take a wait and see approach since he was not arrested. He is not in the lineup tonight, but will be tommorow. They are under a lot of pressure by many people to keep him off the field, but they are also under pressure from the MLB players union to keep him playing, and we ll know that union is very strong.


Which lineup? Police or MLB? :-B


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Postby scr » Wed May 23, 2007 6:26 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:The Rays are going to take a wait and see approach since he was not arrested. He is not in the lineup tonight, but will be tommorow. They are under a lot of pressure by many people to keep him off the field, but they are also under pressure from the MLB players union to keep him playing, and we ll know that union is very strong.



There is plenty more at stake here than just Elijah Dukes. There are five innocent kids already screwed out of a normal family life, and maybe screwed out of a father.

The consequences of this issue is not limited in scope to the poor "wife". It is common knowledge that folks going through divorces will stoop to any level to gain an advantage in the courts. Does anyone know what "wifey" did or said to Dukes to provoke his stupidity? Of course not, but people like to jump to conclusions. There is ALWAYS two sides to every story, but Robbie Neyer didn't bother to get the other side. It's all about the bucks. Shame on Rob Neyer for not acknowledging this.

I wonder if Robbie Neyer is on the payroll of the divorce lawyer?

In any case, again, it's the kids that lose...bigtime.
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Postby acsguitar » Wed May 23, 2007 6:34 pm

scr wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:The Rays are going to take a wait and see approach since he was not arrested. He is not in the lineup tonight, but will be tommorow. They are under a lot of pressure by many people to keep him off the field, but they are also under pressure from the MLB players union to keep him playing, and we ll know that union is very strong.



There is plenty more at stake here than just Elijah Dukes. There are five innocent kids already screwed out of a normal family life, and maybe screwed out of a father.



Also the mothers fault BTW unless Duke forced himself upon them
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Postby jblank » Wed May 23, 2007 7:11 pm

scr wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:The Rays are going to take a wait and see approach since he was not arrested. He is not in the lineup tonight, but will be tommorow. They are under a lot of pressure by many people to keep him off the field, but they are also under pressure from the MLB players union to keep him playing, and we ll know that union is very strong.



There is plenty more at stake here than just Elijah Dukes. There are five innocent kids already screwed out of a normal family life, and maybe screwed out of a father.

The consequences of this issue is not limited in scope to the poor "wife". It is common knowledge that folks going through divorces will stoop to any level to gain an advantage in the courts. Does anyone know what "wifey" did or said to Dukes to provoke his stupidity? Of course not, but people like to jump to conclusions. There is ALWAYS two sides to every story, but Robbie Neyer didn't bother to get the other side. It's all about the bucks. Shame on Rob Neyer for not acknowledging this.

I wonder if Robbie Neyer is on the payroll of the divorce lawyer?

In any case, again, it's the kids that lose...bigtime.


SCR, I don't know you, but I am sure you are a good person and an intelligent man, so I am a bit surprised that you would try and put some of this on the wife, when I doubt she threatened to kill him (or his kids), didn't go to his workplace and make an ass out of herself, and didn't force him to get violent with her.

I don't care what she has done in the past, threatening to kill her and the kids says a lot about his character (or lack there of). A real man doesn't beat his wife/gf, neglect his kids, and resort to threats of extreme violence, just because he gets angry.
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Postby scr » Wed May 23, 2007 7:33 pm

jblank wrote:
scr wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:The Rays are going to take a wait and see approach since he was not arrested. He is not in the lineup tonight, but will be tommorow. They are under a lot of pressure by many people to keep him off the field, but they are also under pressure from the MLB players union to keep him playing, and we ll know that union is very strong.



There is plenty more at stake here than just Elijah Dukes. There are five innocent kids already screwed out of a normal family life, and maybe screwed out of a father.

The consequences of this issue is not limited in scope to the poor "wife". It is common knowledge that folks going through divorces will stoop to any level to gain an advantage in the courts. Does anyone know what "wifey" did or said to Dukes to provoke his stupidity? Of course not, but people like to jump to conclusions. There is ALWAYS two sides to every story, but Robbie Neyer didn't bother to get the other side. It's all about the bucks. Shame on Rob Neyer for not acknowledging this.

I wonder if Robbie Neyer is on the payroll of the divorce lawyer?

In any case, again, it's the kids that lose...bigtime.


SCR, I don't know you, but I am sure you are a good person and an intelligent man, so I am a bit surprised that you would try and put some of this on the wife, when I doubt she threatened to kill him (or his kids), didn't go to his workplace and make an ass out of herself, and didn't force him to get violent with her.

I don't care what she has done in the past, threatening to kill her and the kids says a lot about his character (or lack there of). A real man doesn't beat his wife/gf, neglect his kids, and resort to threats of extreme violence, just because he gets angry.



jblank,


Thousands if not millions of people say and do stupid things in the heat of a marital breakup. This is a well established, unfortunate, fact of life.

The fact is none of us on this board know both sides of the story. We just don't.

Do I condone Dukes for saying what he said?

Of course not.

I will allow for the possibility that the wife said some provocative things to Dukes that caused his latest nutty.

How do we know the wife did not threaten to kill Dukes before Dukes pulled his nutty and went to the school?

How do we know?

The fact is, we don't.

Not to mention the fact that divorce lawyers, by and large, are the scum of the earth. They advise their clients to do whatever it takes to gain an edge in the courtroom. I have heard firsthand from women who are advised to hit their heads on the corner of their doors (by their lawyers), and claim their husbands beat them up-because, hey, all's fair in a divorce.

As much as an idiot Duke's is for losing it, and believe me, I think he's at a minimum-absurdly stupid for what he said and did-when it comes to divorce-I put nothing passed what both parties are capable of doing. It's disgusting all the way around.

At the end of the day the real victims here is not the wife-who I am sure is going to be asking for some money in this divorce action (which makes her veracity immediately suspect), nor is it the incredibly stupid Dukes. The real victims are the kids.

When you condemn Dukes, you will inadvertently condemn these kids to a much harder life. Your words have an effect on more people than you realize. The same goes for Rob Neyer. I'd bet a million bucks he never once thought of what his words would do to the innocent kids.

That's the problem. Too many people (Dukes included) say, write and do too many things that have a horrible consequence on the innocents.

Their are kids whose very lives are at stake here, folks. Let's give them some consideration for a change, instead of getting sucked into a messy divorce and throwing stones.
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