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Trade Scenario Tourney: Round 1-deerayfan vs. Lordrevolution

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Who do you think provides the better response?

Poll ended at Sat May 26, 2007 1:21 am

deerayfan072
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74%
Lordrevolution
15
26%
 
Total votes : 57

Postby deerayfan072 » Thu May 24, 2007 8:03 am

PlayingWithFire wrote:The Royals board were talking Odalis plus something for Milledge. And under deeray's idea all we get for basically all our trade pieces are Anderson Hernandez, Brad Halsey and Danny Putnam? It may be realistic, but it sure is dissapointing !+)

poll is up for 2 days guys


I was going for realistic ;-)
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Postby yeyo44 » Thu May 24, 2007 8:19 am

I like the fact that deeray fan used all the players in the available situation, and gave a very detailed explination, but I dont think Billy Beane is know for trading for old players, so I dont see that as realistic. I did like the move with the Mets.

Lordrevolution's trade made more sense to me, Cubs do need alot of bullpen help and with a log jam in the OF with murton, floyd, pagan, soriano and pie, tradeing pie would be fine. Even know Lord did not trde everybody I do agree its hard to trde guys like Sanders, and Sweeny is going no where, he is the face of KC and will play out his contract and retire.

So with this info I have to declare the winner: Lord (in a photo finish)
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Postby gforce1124 » Thu May 24, 2007 9:25 am

while i dont think either trade would actually happen, i would say lord is the clear winner.

i loved his analysis. he said the players in question wouldn't fetch much, he identified the players who would have the most value and the type of team they would go to, he said that they would be best served in stockpiling more talent and mentioned that his own trade was a bit aggressive. i see his trade being the most realistic if the following happened in the nexts 2-3 weeks: dotel pitches lights out, the cubbies go on a tear and pull even with the brew crew and KC decides to pay their salaries for good talent. with bullpen help being so scarce, if KC offered them for free, i think the cubbies might give away someone like pie IF they could make the playoffs. again, probably wouldn't happen but is conceivable.

deeray, first let me say i love the words of wisdom you provide across the cafe about your home squad. that being said, i cant see your trades ever happening. you were realistic in terms of talent they'd get back but you totally ignored the money aspect. in the oakland deal, you're talking about an $18 million salary dump to the A's. i think we all know they'd never add that much salary. if they did, they couldve picked up manny from WAIVERS for no talent a year or two ago and manny's a hell of a lot more valuable than sanders/sweeney/riske. i also cant see oakland having much interest in yet another oft injured OF. i dont know what they'd want with sweeney, especially with dan johnson being so hot right now and piazza being back in a couple weeks.
the mets trade makes more sense to me, but i cant even see the mets adding $13 million, even though they can afford it, because thats not much talent to get back. dont forget that the mets will get 3 very important arms back before the playoffs (which i think they'll make with or without any deals, assuming relatively good health the rest of the season) in mota, sanchez and pedro. sanchez and pedro are much farther away than mota, but again, if the mets get them back and healthy before the playoffs i think that's all they care about. so i dont think they have as much need for relief pitching as you'd think. also, hernandez is a defensive whiz, so combining that with the added salary, i see no way the mets do this either.

this thread in general is a great idea though, i love it. thanks for coming up with the scenario and kudos to deeray and lord for putting the time in to come up with the trades (and putting yourself out there to be criticized). i'd like to be a part of the next one, but i'll probably comment either way.
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Postby daullaz » Thu May 24, 2007 11:45 am

The A's have a logjam at DH with Piazza returning to challenge Cust. Why would they take Sweeney?
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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Thu May 24, 2007 11:59 am

As "dullaz" pointed out, A's probably wouldnt do that trade. And though the talent D deerayfan072 got back in return, my vote is for him due to LordRevolution's only trade is near impossible. Yes, Felix Pie would be great for the Royals right now, but Dotel and Riske is like adding injury to insult to the Cubs bullpen. Now they have MORE average to below average relivers to blow games in the 9th. They need a Solid closer who can come in and shut down games...not Riske and Dotel.
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Postby hot4tx » Thu May 24, 2007 12:02 pm

I vote for either of them to consider taking over as the Rangers GM. :-B
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Postby StlSluggers » Thu May 24, 2007 12:06 pm

05worldserieschamps wrote:They need a Solid closer who can come in and shut down games...not Riske and Dotel.

Which means they would make the deal.
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Postby Lordrevolution » Thu May 24, 2007 12:14 pm

jake_harv88 wrote:LordRev how does your plan NOT include Butler? :-?


Compeletly forgot about him, honestly.
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Postby FrogStamp » Thu May 24, 2007 12:15 pm

This is dumb.
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Postby deerayfan072 » Thu May 24, 2007 1:11 pm

daullaz wrote:The A's have a logjam at DH with Piazza returning to challenge Cust. Why would they take Sweeney?


Cust will come back down, also he could paly OF if he keeps it up. They could Rotate Sweeny between 1B and DH with Johnson. Also they need offense, and kendall gives them none. They could always let Piazza play more at C and have Sweeney DH with Johnson at 1B. Deal may nto happen, but fact remains, A's need offense if they want to compete this year
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