while i dont think either trade would actually happen, i would say lord is the clear winner.
i loved his analysis. he said the players in question wouldn't fetch much, he identified the players who would have the most value and the type of team they would go to, he said that they would be best served in stockpiling more talent and mentioned that his own trade was a bit aggressive. i see his trade being the most realistic if the following happened in the nexts 2-3 weeks: dotel pitches lights out, the cubbies go on a tear and pull even with the brew crew and KC decides to pay their salaries for good talent. with bullpen help being so scarce, if KC offered them for free, i think the cubbies might give away someone like pie IF they could make the playoffs. again, probably wouldn't happen but is conceivable.
deeray, first let me say i love the words of wisdom you provide across the cafe about your home squad. that being said, i cant see your trades ever happening. you were realistic in terms of talent they'd get back but you totally ignored the money aspect. in the oakland deal, you're talking about an $18 million salary dump to the A's. i think we all know they'd never add that much salary. if they did, they couldve picked up manny from WAIVERS for no talent a year or two ago and manny's a hell of a lot more valuable than sanders/sweeney/riske. i also cant see oakland having much interest in yet another oft injured OF. i dont know what they'd want with sweeney, especially with dan johnson being so hot right now and piazza being back in a couple weeks.
the mets trade makes more sense to me, but i cant even see the mets adding $13 million, even though they can afford it, because thats not much talent to get back. dont forget that the mets will get 3 very important arms back before the playoffs (which i think they'll make with or without any deals, assuming relatively good health the rest of the season) in mota, sanchez and pedro. sanchez and pedro are much farther away than mota, but again, if the mets get them back and healthy before the playoffs i think that's all they care about. so i dont think they have as much need for relief pitching as you'd think. also, hernandez is a defensive whiz, so combining that with the added salary, i see no way the mets do this either.
this thread in general is a great idea though, i love it. thanks for coming up with the scenario and kudos to deeray and lord for putting the time in to come up with the trades (and putting yourself out there to be criticized). i'd like to be a part of the next one, but i'll probably comment either way.