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Postby noseeum » Tue May 22, 2007 1:35 pm

acsguitar wrote:Why'd you have to go and drag Donny baseball into this :~(


I love Mattingly, but I'd probably say he's a little overrated. It would have been nice if he'd learned to take a pitch a little more to get that OBP over .400 for a few years, but in his defense, Bill James was still probably working security while Mattingly was raking it.

His peak years were awesome of course, but there are plenty of other first basemen with peak years that are equally good.
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Postby Yoda » Tue May 22, 2007 1:35 pm

noseeum wrote:
acsguitar wrote:Why'd you have to go and drag Donny baseball into this :~(


I love Mattingly, but I'd probably say he's a little overrated. It would have been nice if he'd learned to take a pitch a little more to get that OBP over .400 for a few years, but in his defense, Bill James was still probably working security while Mattingly was raking it.

His peak years were awesome of course, but there are plenty of other first basemen with peak years that are equally good.


Definitely overrated Mattingly is.
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Postby Snakes Gould » Tue May 22, 2007 1:47 pm

no mention of adrian beltre? you guys are slipping :-° :-D
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Postby acsguitar » Tue May 22, 2007 1:49 pm

Why's mattingly overrated he's not ever mentioned for the hall with any seriousness
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Postby noseeum » Tue May 22, 2007 1:55 pm

acsguitar wrote:Why's mattingly overrated he's not ever mentioned for the hall with any seriousness


I think it's more about his peak four years. They were great, but were they as great as you remember? The year he hit .352 he had a .394 OBP. He had a great run for sure, but it wasn't like a Pujols run or anything. This coming from a Yankee fan, BTW.
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Postby IllinoisBandit » Tue May 22, 2007 2:06 pm

Am I seeing things or am I seeing Brooks Robinson, KGJ, and Pete Rose on overrated lists?

Pete Rose and KGJ would be in my top 20 all-time without question. Griffey was the best player in baseball for almost a decade.

But I'd agree with Mattingly, Ryan, and Jeter and like to submit Fred McFriff, Pameiro, and Cal Ripken Jr to this list.[/b]
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Postby Tavish » Tue May 22, 2007 2:11 pm

If you were to rank your All-Time 3B where would you put Robinson?
Where would you rank Rose among the game's greatest players?
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Postby bigh0rt » Tue May 22, 2007 2:21 pm

Tavish wrote:If you were to rank your All-Time 3B where would you put Robinson?
Where would you rank Rose among the game's greatest players?


I'd place Brooks Robinson in the Top 10, but not the Top 5. Below average with the bat, but top notch defensively. Rose would likely be in the 75th overall or so range. He couldn't slug worth a crap, but he did have value.
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Postby elldog5 » Tue May 22, 2007 2:24 pm

Whoever said Biggio could be considered the player of the 90's, what are you thinking?

How about Griffey, Big Hurt, Sosa, Magwire, Maddux, Clemens, RJ, I know you said Bonds, they were all better. There are probably more.
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Postby 405z06 » Tue May 22, 2007 2:26 pm

I've seen some arguments that make the case for Joe Carter being very overated. I can't remember the source (James?). I know he is not a HOF-caliber player, but... that's my $.02
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