Yoda wrote:My guess is that at the least Slowey will put up numbers like Sowers 06. The worst case scenario would be Mike Pelfrey #2.
haha if u say the least he'll do is Sowers 06, how can u say the worst case scenario is Pelfrey #2? Saying the least he'll do/worst case scenario is pretty much saying the same thing. So, the least he'll do is Pelfrey #2
Yeah that didn't make any sense but I'm also under the influence...
Maybe Sowers type numbers as best case and Pelfrey as worst? Does that make sense?
superslugger616 wrote:BRING UP GARZA AND HIS K POTENTIAL
He recently blasted the Twins front office about his performance in the spring, being sent down, and being forced to work on secondary stuff. I don't think we will see him for a while.
I can sympathize with some of what Garza said. The Twins reliance on veterans is infuriating at times and he certainly pitched well enough during Spring Training to earn a spot. But a lot of what he said was just out of line and I'm sure the Twins aren't going to take that lightly.
He did throw well last night and has lowered his ERA to 3.21. They're not ruling him out for Friday's start, but it appears Slowey is the heavy favorite. If anyone gets hurt or struggles badly Garza will be the next one to get the call.
superslugger616 wrote:BRING UP GARZA AND HIS K POTENTIAL
He recently blasted the Twins front office about his performance in the spring, being sent down, and being forced to work on secondary stuff. I don't think we will see him for a while.
I can sympathize with some of what Garza said. The Twins reliance on veterans is infuriating at times and he certainly pitched well enough during Spring Training to earn a spot. But a lot of what he said was just out of line and I'm sure the Twins aren't going to take that lightly.
He did throw well last night and has lowered his ERA to 3.21. They're not ruling him out for Friday's start, but it appears Slowey is the heavy favorite. If anyone gets hurt or struggles badly Garza will be the next one to get the call.
Talent wise...Slowey can't hold Garza's jock. I understand the need to work on secondary stuff, but he feels he has been passed over because of it.
superslugger616 wrote:BRING UP GARZA AND HIS K POTENTIAL
He recently blasted the Twins front office about his performance in the spring, being sent down, and being forced to work on secondary stuff. I don't think we will see him for a while.
I can sympathize with some of what Garza said. The Twins reliance on veterans is infuriating at times and he certainly pitched well enough during Spring Training to earn a spot. But a lot of what he said was just out of line and I'm sure the Twins aren't going to take that lightly.
He did throw well last night and has lowered his ERA to 3.21. They're not ruling him out for Friday's start, but it appears Slowey is the heavy favorite. If anyone gets hurt or struggles badly Garza will be the next one to get the call.
Talent wise...Slowey can't hold Garza's jock. I understand the need to work on secondary stuff, but he feels he has been passed over because of it.
I agree. Garza's potential is worlds above Slowey's. Even without the great secondary stuff at this point Garza would have been a better option than Ponson or Ortiz, and I think that's what he is upset about.
superslugger616 wrote:BRING UP GARZA AND HIS K POTENTIAL
He recently blasted the Twins front office about his performance in the spring, being sent down, and being forced to work on secondary stuff. I don't think we will see him for a while.
I can sympathize with some of what Garza said. The Twins reliance on veterans is infuriating at times and he certainly pitched well enough during Spring Training to earn a spot. But a lot of what he said was just out of line and I'm sure the Twins aren't going to take that lightly.
He did throw well last night and has lowered his ERA to 3.21. They're not ruling him out for Friday's start, but it appears Slowey is the heavy favorite. If anyone gets hurt or struggles badly Garza will be the next one to get the call.
Talent wise...Slowey can't hold Garza's jock. I understand the need to work on secondary stuff, but he feels he has been passed over because of it.
I agree. Garza's potential is worlds above Slowey's. Even without the great secondary stuff at this point Garza would have been a better option than Ponson or Ortiz, and I think that's what he is upset about.
It isn't really his decision though. Minnie has a solid track record of grooming their pitchers and Garza should not question them. They saw in him something last year that they didn't like and asked him to work on it. It's not just about winning the games now. They obviously would love to have Garza throwing every 5 days but if they feel that he has to work on his secondary pitches that will make him better then what is the problem? Garza is going to get called up soon anyway.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
superslugger616 wrote:BRING UP GARZA AND HIS K POTENTIAL
He recently blasted the Twins front office about his performance in the spring, being sent down, and being forced to work on secondary stuff. I don't think we will see him for a while.
I can sympathize with some of what Garza said. The Twins reliance on veterans is infuriating at times and he certainly pitched well enough during Spring Training to earn a spot. But a lot of what he said was just out of line and I'm sure the Twins aren't going to take that lightly.
He did throw well last night and has lowered his ERA to 3.21. They're not ruling him out for Friday's start, but it appears Slowey is the heavy favorite. If anyone gets hurt or struggles badly Garza will be the next one to get the call.
Talent wise...Slowey can't hold Garza's jock. I understand the need to work on secondary stuff, but he feels he has been passed over because of it.
I agree. Garza's potential is worlds above Slowey's. Even without the great secondary stuff at this point Garza would have been a better option than Ponson or Ortiz, and I think that's what he is upset about.
It isn't really his decision though. Minnie has a solid track record of grooming their pitchers and Garza should not question them. They saw in him something last year that they didn't like and asked him to work on it. It's not just about winning the games now. They obviously would love to have Garza throwing every 5 days but if they feel that he has to work on his secondary pitches that will make him better then what is the problem? Garza is going to get called up soon anyway.
True. They have done very well with their young pitchers and protecting guys like Santana at the beginning of his career may have been the most beneficial for him. I don't doubt that the Twins know how to handle their arms and I feel they will do the same with Garza.
But from Garza's vantage point, seeing how long it took for them to put Liriano in the rotation and how that helped turn the season around, it must be frustrating. Garza is no Liriano and I'm not saying he is right to blow up like that, but I can see where he is coming from to a point.
superslugger616 wrote:BRING UP GARZA AND HIS K POTENTIAL
He recently blasted the Twins front office about his performance in the spring, being sent down, and being forced to work on secondary stuff. I don't think we will see him for a while.
I can sympathize with some of what Garza said. The Twins reliance on veterans is infuriating at times and he certainly pitched well enough during Spring Training to earn a spot. But a lot of what he said was just out of line and I'm sure the Twins aren't going to take that lightly.
He did throw well last night and has lowered his ERA to 3.21. They're not ruling him out for Friday's start, but it appears Slowey is the heavy favorite. If anyone gets hurt or struggles badly Garza will be the next one to get the call.
Talent wise...Slowey can't hold Garza's jock. I understand the need to work on secondary stuff, but he feels he has been passed over because of it.
I agree. Garza's potential is worlds above Slowey's. Even without the great secondary stuff at this point Garza would have been a better option than Ponson or Ortiz, and I think that's what he is upset about.
It isn't really his decision though. Minnie has a solid track record of grooming their pitchers and Garza should not question them. They saw in him something last year that they didn't like and asked him to work on it. It's not just about winning the games now. They obviously would love to have Garza throwing every 5 days but if they feel that he has to work on his secondary pitches that will make him better then what is the problem? Garza is going to get called up soon anyway.
True. They have done very well with their young pitchers and protecting guys like Santana at the beginning of his career may have been the most beneficial for him. I don't doubt that the Twins know how to handle their arms and I feel they will do the same with Garza.
But from Garza's vantage point, seeing how long it took for them to put Liriano in the rotation and how that helped turn the season around, it must be frustrating. Garza is no Liriano and I'm not saying he is right to blow up like that, but I can see where he is coming from to a point.
At the same time, Liriano and Santana were much more polished than Garza when inserted into the rotation. Garza was in control of his own destiny in 2006. He didn't do well with the chance given and they asked him to work on his craft. Even though he is pitching well right now, he also didn't start off great like Slowey did. He is in no place to complain. Plus how does it make him look when one of his teammates, a fellow rookie prospect, gets his first shot at MLB and he is sitting there complaining?
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
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by superslugger616 » Mon May 28, 2007 1:58 pm 
