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Postby Noggy » Thu May 17, 2007 2:20 am

Havok1517 wrote:
RocketsDWM wrote:At the deadline:

Boston trades

Coco Crisp
Jon Lester/Hansen
Delcarmen

Atlanta Trades

Andruw Jones


No way Boston does this deal without a trade and sign with Andruw and I doubt they'd part with those RPs.


Last I heard, Hansen and Delcarmen were getting lit up in AAA. So if anything, Atlanta wouldn't want them unless they really turn the corner between now and the deadline.
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Postby nsulham » Thu May 17, 2007 7:26 am

Havok1517 wrote:
RocketsDWM wrote:At the deadline:

Boston trades

Coco Crisp
Jon Lester/Hansen
Delcarmen

Atlanta Trades

Andruw Jones


No way Boston does this deal without a trade and sign with Andruw and I doubt they'd part with those RPs.


The Boston FO has seemingly soured on Hansen, and Delcarmen's been available before so it's possible, but only if Andruw signs like you said.
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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Thu May 17, 2007 9:53 am

In terms of Crede/Iguchi/Macdougall for Utley, your probably right. But i don't think Crede's value is as low as you think just because he is stuggling. He is probably the Best defensive 3B in the league and 30+ HR capabilities. Thats not a mediocre player. And like I said, 3B and RP are big problems for the Phils right now.

However, I think Milledge for Salty is a great deal. Salty is Major League ready and wont be playing in ATL anytime soon with McCann signing that Long term deal. So he has to go somewhere. Why not go to NY for Milledge. He isnt playing for the MEts right now and the Braves could use another OF. Prospect-Prospect trades don't happen often, but this one makes sense.
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Postby Fantasy Man 27 » Thu May 17, 2007 8:34 pm

Boston trades

Coco Crisp
Jon Lester/Hansen
Delcarmen

Atlanta Trades

Andruw Jones


This is a horrible trade for the Braves unless they get Lester. Coco Crisp is absolutely horrible.

Delcarmen's numbers: 5.03 ERA, 1.53 WHIP, 3.66 BB/9, 12.81 K/9, 28-8 K/BB

As you can see, nothing too special. He has nice K rates, but that will translate in to about 9 K/9 in the majors. If he can't throw strikes to minor league hitters, I can't imagine what he would do to lineups with Howard, Utley, Rollins or Reyes, Beltran, Delgado, Wright.

Hansen's numbers: 5.14 ERA, 2.00 WHIP, 6.43 BB/9, 9.00 K/9, 14-10 K/BB

Again, nothing too special. Lester would be nice, but I would rather have an Ellsbury/Lester for Jones trade go down.

Dan Haren
Santiago Casilla

Mets:
Michael Devaney
Lastings Milledge
Aaron Heilman

Mets get a workhorse ace, Haren goes to a team that'll score more than 1 run a game for him, Beane gets the outfielder he's always wanted, and Heilman will finally get to start(And Mets fans wont get to see him blow games anymore!)


Why would the A's do that? Haren is the only thing now-a-days keeping them in ball games. If the Mets really want Haren, they are going to have to pony up. I am thinking Pelfrey/Milledge/Heilman. That, as you can see is a whole boatload for one pitcher. The Mets are only hurting Lastings stock.

How bout Tex for Loney/Kemp/Billingsley?


That is a pretty nice deal. It addresses both teams needs, as I don't think Texas is going to be able to compete this year. Kemp should put up some nice numbers in Arlington, and Loney should see some more balls fly out than he would playing for LA. Billingsley, IMO, still has top of the rotation stuff.

In terms of Crede/Iguchi/Macdougall for Utley, your probably right. But i don't think Crede's value is as low as you think just because he is stuggling. He is probably the Best defensive 3B in the league and 30+ HR capabilities. Thats not a mediocre player. And like I said, 3B and RP are big problems for the Phils right now.

However, I think Milledge for Salty is a great deal. Salty is Major League ready and wont be playing in ATL anytime soon with McCann signing that Long term deal. So he has to go somewhere. Why not go to NY for Milledge. He isnt playing for the MEts right now and the Braves could use another OF. Prospect-Prospect trades don't happen often, but this one makes sense.


That first trade, was a horrible offer. The Phillies would never trade Utley, especially for a scrub like Iguchi. Macdougal has been doing great this year (not!) and Joe Crede has shown us that last year was a fluke. He is not the best defensive 3B in the league (Rolen even right now, Lowell off the top of my head) and I doubt he gets to 25 HRs.

The Salty for Milledge trade would never happen. Bobby Cox wouldn't put up with Milledge. Cox deserves the most respect as a manager in all of baseball, and I doubt Milledge gives him half of that.
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