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What exactly is the infeild fly rule?

Postby CadensDad » Sat May 12, 2007 2:23 pm

I've hear this efore but it doesn't seem to ever apply correctly to what I've heard.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Sat May 12, 2007 3:04 pm

Basically when runners are on first and second, could be first, second, and third, less then 2 outs(so either 1 out or 0 outs), and the batter hits a pop fly that an infielder could easily catch(so it could be on the outfield grass). The batter is out and the runners do not have to advance even if the ball is dropped.
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Postby TheRock » Sun May 13, 2007 12:06 am

Wikipedia pretty much says it all. For those not wanting to read that much, the infield fly rule is there to protect the hitting team. With runners on first and second, infielders were letting easy fly balls drop then doubling off the guys on base.

It always kind of bothered me to see the rule in place in little league though. Nobody at that level understands it and it's hard on a little kid to be told he's out before anyone even fields his ball. At that level there's no chance these kids are going to turn two in that situation. They stand a better chance of getting a double play catching it and then picking off the kid that didn't tag up.
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Postby jamastaballa » Sun May 13, 2007 2:06 pm

I agree, but it's better that they play by as many REAL rules as possible to help their overall understanding of the game when the grow up.
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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Thu May 17, 2007 10:04 am

Exactly. And some of them who do understand it will take advantage of it. A Little Leaguer who gets a coach who tells them to do it will understand it.

And as said before, they need to be playing by as many real rules as possible.
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Postby Jiu » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:17 am

05worldserieschamps wrote:Exactly. And some of them who do understand it will take advantage of it. A Little Leaguer who gets a coach who tells them to do it will understand it.

And as said before, they need to be playing by as many real rules as possible.


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Yes, because we all know how supremely important it is to take Little League 100% seriously. We wouldn't want to mistakenly assume that the kids are there to have fun or anything.
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Re: What exactly is the infeild fly rule?

Postby Dhark » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:32 am

I agree that fun is most important, but I would want my kids to atleast grasp the fundamentals at this age. If you are going to play a game, you should atleast know and follow the rules. At what point do you expect them to actually learn the game? I think you are not sending your kids a very good message if you don't teach them to play fairly. I have a level of integrity and respect for the game and I want my kids to share that same value while enjoying the game. You can learn the game and have fun at the same time.
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Re: What exactly is the infeild fly rule?

Postby TheRock » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:30 pm

Dhark wrote:I agree that fun is most important, but I would want my kids to atleast grasp the fundamentals at this age. If you are going to play a game, you should atleast know and follow the rules. At what point do you expect them to actually learn the game? I think you are not sending your kids a very good message if you don't teach them to play fairly. I have a level of integrity and respect for the game and I want my kids to share that same value while enjoying the game. You can learn the game and have fun at the same time.


The infield fly rule is "fundamental"? Most adults don't understand it and wouldn't even notice if it was taken out of the game. The players at ANY age don't need to know this "essential" rule of baseball, it's called by the umpire.

And I've never seen little league at any age level play by all the rules. They typically don't start allowing baserunners to lead off til age 10 or so, they don't play on a regulation sized field til age 13 or 14, there's no sliding headfirst, and you can't clobber the catcher even if he's totally blocking the plate. But he can jump on the prone runner knees-first in full gear, because we're trying to prevent injuries. %6 :?

And what does trying to teach a bunch of 12 year olds the infield fly rule have to do with playing fairly?
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Re: What exactly is the infeild fly rule?

Postby Dhark » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:27 pm

Thank you for taking the time to drag this back out, I will allow you another month to come up w/ a witty retort. I am not saying that the infield fly rule as a whole is a big issue in little league. I would agree that most little leagers aren't going to intentionally drop a infield fly. I come from a family that grew up in baseball. My father and grandfather always taught us to learn the game. I just think that little league is the time when kids should really start learning the game. I think they should be taught what the infield fly rule is. I don't believe that the game should be taken so seriously that you take the fun out of it, but I do believe that you should be taught the rules.
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