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Is time for the MR approach?

Postby markj11 » Tue May 08, 2007 11:52 am

My league counts W, CG, SHO, K, BB, SV, WHIP, ERA, K/BB, and K/9. My pitchers look like this:
M. Cain
J. Bonderman
J. Verlander
S. Kazmir
M. Hendrickson(just picked up)
J. Nathan
JJ. Putz
S. Torres
O. Dotel

I am below the middle in all pitching cats including last in W(9), K/BB and next to last in K/9 and BB.

I have tried to deal Verlander/Torres for B. Ryan (rejected) and Saito (rejected). Torres is only helping in one cat(SV) and killing my other cats. Am I correct in thinking that a WW middle realiver would be much more valuable than these two low K high BB pitchers?
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Re: Is time for the MR approach?

Postby Yoda » Tue May 08, 2007 11:56 am

markj11 wrote:My league counts W, CG, SHO, K, BB, SV, WHIP, ERA, K/BB, and K/9. My pitchers look like this:
M. Cain
J. Bonderman
J. Verlander
S. Kazmir
M. Hendrickson(just picked up)
J. Nathan
JJ. Putz
S. Torres
O. Dotel

I am below the middle in all pitching cats including last in W(9), K/BB and next to last in K/9 and BB.

I have tried to deal Verlander/Torres for B. Ryan (rejected) and Saito (rejected). Torres is only helping in one cat(SV) and killing my other cats. Am I correct in thinking that a WW middle realiver would be much more valuable than these two low K high BB pitchers?


In your league set up, closers have very little value. However, good pitchers, whether they are starters or relievers, have a ton of value. So yes, I would drop Torres for an MR even if you are sacrificing SVs.
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Postby markj11 » Tue May 08, 2007 11:59 am

Forgot to mention that a Verlander/Torres for C. Ray also got rejected.
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Re: Is time for the MR approach?

Postby markj11 » Tue May 08, 2007 12:02 pm

Yoda wrote:
markj11 wrote:My league counts W, CG, SHO, K, BB, SV, WHIP, ERA, K/BB, and K/9. My pitchers look like this:
M. Cain
J. Bonderman
J. Verlander
S. Kazmir
M. Hendrickson(just picked up)
J. Nathan
JJ. Putz
S. Torres
O. Dotel

I am below the middle in all pitching cats including last in W(9), K/BB and next to last in K/9 and BB.

I have tried to deal Verlander/Torres for B. Ryan (rejected) and Saito (rejected). Torres is only helping in one cat(SV) and killing my other cats. Am I correct in thinking that a WW middle realiver would be much more valuable than these two low K high BB pitchers?


In your league set up, closers have very little value. However, good pitchers, whether they are starters or relievers, have a ton of value. So yes, I would drop Torres for an MR even if you are sacrificing SVs.


Yes, K's are very important. One guy said the only way I could get E. Bedard was for J. Nathan.
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Re: Is time for the MR approach?

Postby Yoda » Tue May 08, 2007 12:08 pm

markj11 wrote:
Yoda wrote:
markj11 wrote:My league counts W, CG, SHO, K, BB, SV, WHIP, ERA, K/BB, and K/9. My pitchers look like this:
M. Cain
J. Bonderman
J. Verlander
S. Kazmir
M. Hendrickson(just picked up)
J. Nathan
JJ. Putz
S. Torres
O. Dotel

I am below the middle in all pitching cats including last in W(9), K/BB and next to last in K/9 and BB.

I have tried to deal Verlander/Torres for B. Ryan (rejected) and Saito (rejected). Torres is only helping in one cat(SV) and killing my other cats. Am I correct in thinking that a WW middle realiver would be much more valuable than these two low K high BB pitchers?


In your league set up, closers have very little value. However, good pitchers, whether they are starters or relievers, have a ton of value. So yes, I would drop Torres for an MR even if you are sacrificing SVs.


Yes, K's are very important. One guy said the only way I could get E. Bedard was for J. Nathan.


That's ridiculous. I wouldn't do that considering Nathan should be the most valuable reliever in that set up.

I would grab someone off waivers if that is the case.
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Re: Is time for the MR approach?

Postby markj11 » Tue May 08, 2007 1:17 pm

Yoda wrote:
markj11 wrote:
Yoda wrote:
markj11 wrote:My league counts W, CG, SHO, K, BB, SV, WHIP, ERA, K/BB, and K/9. My pitchers look like this:
M. Cain
J. Bonderman
J. Verlander
S. Kazmir
M. Hendrickson(just picked up)
J. Nathan
JJ. Putz
S. Torres
O. Dotel

I am below the middle in all pitching cats including last in W(9), K/BB and next to last in K/9 and BB.

I have tried to deal Verlander/Torres for B. Ryan (rejected) and Saito (rejected). Torres is only helping in one cat(SV) and killing my other cats. Am I correct in thinking that a WW middle realiver would be much more valuable than these two low K high BB pitchers?


In your league set up, closers have very little value. However, good pitchers, whether they are starters or relievers, have a ton of value. So yes, I would drop Torres for an MR even if you are sacrificing SVs.


Yes, K's are very important. One guy said the only way I could get E. Bedard was for J. Nathan.


That's ridiculous. I wouldn't do that considering Nathan should be the most valuable reliever in that set up.

I would grab someone off waivers if that is the case.


Thank you, would you agree that Verlander's value is greatly reduced in this setup?
2W 15BB :-t 24K :-t 2.75ERA ;-D 1.22WHIP ;-D 1.60K/BB :-t 6.00K/9 :-t

And I don't see his ERA staying at that level. So basically he could help me in W, ERA, WHIP and hurt me in K, BB, K/BB, and K/9 whereas a good MR would hurt me in W and help in ERA, WHIP, K, BB, K/BB, and K/9.
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