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Postby deerayfan072 » Mon May 07, 2007 12:59 pm

he pitched his second 7 inning no hitter in 16 months on Friday for the Vero Beach Rays. He and McGee are looking awesome right now:

Davis

36.1 IP 1.73 ERA 7 ER 8 BB 34 K .175 AVG

McGee

29.2 IP 1.21 ERA 4 ER 13 BB 34 K .179 AVG
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Postby BoilerATC » Mon May 07, 2007 4:08 pm

Between the two, who has a higher ceiling? Shouldn't they be moved up a level soon?

Does either have #1 or #2 type stuff?
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Postby deerayfan072 » Mon May 07, 2007 4:13 pm

BoilerATC wrote:Between the two, who has a higher ceiling? Shouldn't they be moved up a level soon?

Does either have #1 or #2 type stuff?


Wade has the higher ceiling. They both are young, Davis just turned 21 and McGee did also. Davis def has 1 or 2 stuff IMO. They should be moved up soon i would think. The Rays are taking i slow with them. We have the starters in AAA and AA so they can take there time with these 2.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue May 08, 2007 2:00 am

I really don't want to try to figure out which pitcher fits in where in the D-Rays' system, they just have way too many talented arms and only 5 rotation spot.

BTW: what's wrong with Mitch Talbot. And didn't you had an intern job with the Rays?
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Postby Humphrey » Tue May 08, 2007 6:59 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
BoilerATC wrote:Between the two, who has a higher ceiling? Shouldn't they be moved up a level soon?

Does either have #1 or #2 type stuff?


Wade has the higher ceiling. They both are young, Davis just turned 21 and McGee did also. Davis def has 1 or 2 stuff IMO. They should be moved up soon i would think. The Rays are taking i slow with them. We have the starters in AAA and AA so they can take there time with these 2.


wrong
wrong wrong
wrong wrong wrong

mcgee has a higher ceiling
davis turned 21 eight months ago
mcgee doesn't turn 21 for another three months
are you trying to mislead people?
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Postby deerayfan072 » Tue May 08, 2007 7:49 pm

Humphrey wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
BoilerATC wrote:Between the two, who has a higher ceiling? Shouldn't they be moved up a level soon?

Does either have #1 or #2 type stuff?


Wade has the higher ceiling. They both are young, Davis just turned 21 and McGee did also. Davis def has 1 or 2 stuff IMO. They should be moved up soon i would think. The Rays are taking i slow with them. We have the starters in AAA and AA so they can take there time with these 2.


wrong
wrong wrong
wrong wrong wrong

mcgee has a higher ceiling
davis turned 21 eight months ago
mcgee doesn't turn 21 for another three months
are you trying to mislead people?


Sorry i was off on the birthdays i didn't go look it up i was working on it quickly, obviously by just turing i knew it is soon or recent my bad.

Wade has the higher ceiling IMO as i stated. Have you watched them both pitch? Up close and personal? b/c i have many times. i know them very well and i can tell you wade is the better pitcher IMO. May not turn out that way, but i said IMO-- which is In My Opinion.

Again sorry to all that i messed up there birthdays by a couple months i apologize !+)
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Postby Humphrey » Tue May 08, 2007 8:12 pm

you were off by almost a year total

in my opinion, which is my opinion
I feel that in many people's opinions
mcgee has a higher ceiling
and saying that in one's opinion
davis has a higher ceiling
requires more substance than a simple
opinion after seeing them pitch enough
to have an opinion

mcgee is 10 months younger
he has produced similarly to davis (same levels)
he is more projectable
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue May 08, 2007 8:22 pm

Humphrey wrote:you were off by almost a year total

in my opinion, which is my opinion
I feel that in many people's opinions
mcgee has a higher ceiling
and saying that in one's opinion
davis has a higher ceiling
requires more substance than a simple
opinion after seeing them pitch enough
to have an opinion

mcgee is 10 months younger
he has produced similarly to davis (same levels)
he is more projectable


Just because you are younger doesn't make you more projectable
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Postby Humphrey » Tue May 08, 2007 8:25 pm

if you've added 40 pounds
of muscle since high school
and you're still getting used to your frame
you're probably more projectable
than the older guy who has
likely maxed out his frame
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Postby BoilerATC » Tue May 08, 2007 8:25 pm

PECOTA doesn't like Davis much with an upside score of 23.9 and comp's of Wainwright and Humberto Sanchez. Mcgee's upside score is 41.3. In Mcgee's top ten comp's are Harden, Kazmir, Elbert, Oliver Perez, and Zumaya.

Don't know if that helps at all, but I usually refer to PECOTA when evaluating guys with a couple of seasons under their belts.
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