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Postby bleach168 » Mon May 07, 2007 3:59 pm

Oil companies should be thankful our government doesn't tax their product more like foreign countries.

Our govt needs to do more to promote alternative fuel sources. We've been saying that for how long now?
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Postby StlSluggers » Mon May 07, 2007 4:06 pm

bleach168 wrote:Our govt needs to do more to promote alternative fuel sources...

...that aren't weather-based. This ethanol stuff is nice as a supplement, but we're going overboard with it. Who wants to be depedent on a weather-based fuel source? I'd rather take my chances with the Arabs, thank you.
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Postby RugbyD » Mon May 07, 2007 4:07 pm

bleach168 wrote:Oil companies should be thankful our government doesn't tax their product more like foreign countries.

What's there to be thankful for? That a country founded on freedom and the rule of law operates according to freedom and the rule lof law (notwithstanding the commieish ramblings about windfall profit taxes)? That reminds me of the Chris Rock bit about people bragging about taking care of their kids. The govt is supposed to mind their own business and protect priavte property rights and shouldn't be thanked for it.
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Postby knapplc » Mon May 07, 2007 4:08 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
bleach168 wrote:Our govt needs to do more to promote alternative fuel sources...

...that aren't weather-based. This ethanol stuff is nice as a supplement, but we're going overboard with it. Who wants to be depedent on a weather-based fuel source? I'd rather take my chances with the Arabs, thank you.



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When is the last time the corn didn't grow?
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Postby RugbyD » Mon May 07, 2007 4:09 pm

knapplc wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:
bleach168 wrote:Our govt needs to do more to promote alternative fuel sources...

...that aren't weather-based. This ethanol stuff is nice as a supplement, but we're going overboard with it. Who wants to be depedent on a weather-based fuel source? I'd rather take my chances with the Arabs, thank you.



:-?


When is the last time the corn didn't grow?


droughts happen
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Postby StlSluggers » Mon May 07, 2007 4:09 pm

knapplc wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:
bleach168 wrote:Our govt needs to do more to promote alternative fuel sources...

...that aren't weather-based. This ethanol stuff is nice as a supplement, but we're going overboard with it. Who wants to be depedent on a weather-based fuel source? I'd rather take my chances with the Arabs, thank you.

:-?

When is the last time the corn didn't grow?

The question is: Do you want to be depending on it the next time is doesn't grow?
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Postby knapplc » Mon May 07, 2007 4:18 pm

RugbyD wrote:
knapplc wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:
bleach168 wrote:Our govt needs to do more to promote alternative fuel sources...

...that aren't weather-based. This ethanol stuff is nice as a supplement, but we're going overboard with it. Who wants to be depedent on a weather-based fuel source? I'd rather take my chances with the Arabs, thank you.



:-?


When is the last time the corn didn't grow?


droughts happen


Never heard of irrigation? Nebraska, one of America's largest corn-producing states, has been in drought conditions for the past five years. But thanks to irrigation and the lessons learned in the 1930s we haven't had any reduction in production.

Droughts happen? Yeah they do. Terrorists happen, too, and many of them happen to live pretty darned close to the main source of oil. Which would you rather be concerned about?

Not that I'm advocating ethanol as a replacement for gasoline - Earth simply doesn't have enough land to produce both food and the fuel we need. It's a supplement to oil-based fuels, that's all.

I advocate producing cars with MUCH greater fuel economy than are currently available on the market, and I advocate doing that NOW. We have the intelligence and resources, just not the motivation.
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Postby Splendid61 » Mon May 07, 2007 4:33 pm

I don't mind high gas prices if they lead to less traffic on the road. There's nothing I hate more than traffic.
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Postby Snakes Gould » Mon May 07, 2007 4:34 pm

ive heard ethanol based gases dont get anything in terms of mpg. how much is that true?
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Postby bleach168 » Mon May 07, 2007 4:45 pm

RugbyD wrote:
bleach168 wrote:Oil companies should be thankful our government doesn't tax their product more like foreign countries.

What's there to be thankful for? That a country founded on freedom and the rule of law operates according to freedom and the rule lof law (notwithstanding the commieish ramblings about windfall profit taxes)? That reminds me of the Chris Rock bit about people bragging about taking care of their kids. The govt is supposed to mind their own business and protect priavte property rights and shouldn't be thanked for it.


That's a generalized argument against any form of taxes. You want low taxes, fine. But how come it's only low for oil companies and not for the rest of us? There's the imbalance they should be thankful for.
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