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Postby knapplc » Mon May 07, 2007 1:44 pm

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Postby AcidRock23 » Mon May 07, 2007 1:50 pm

Field wrote:I'm more worried about how $4 gas will lead to even greater levels of inflation. You won't see the Fed lowering interest rates anytime soon if that happens.


OT a bit but there's a fantastic history of prices since the Medieval Era called 'The Great Wave' that explains how spikes in fuel prices have 'led' each spike in inflation since that time and, in turn, have led to wars, cannabalism, drug use and all sorts of other ills. It sounds a bit far fetched but it is a pretty breezy read and summarizes a lot of pretty dense histories of prices in one 200 some odd page book.
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Postby RugbyD » Mon May 07, 2007 1:54 pm

Oil companies have not built new refineries b/c there's little reason to. When the govt heavily subsidizes your supposed future direct competition and constantly threathens to steal your money via "windfall profits" taxes, why would you bother with the CapEx on something that takes a very long time to complete and bring into operation?
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Postby Field » Mon May 07, 2007 2:08 pm

AcidRock23 wrote:
Field wrote:I'm more worried about how $4 gas will lead to even greater levels of inflation. You won't see the Fed lowering interest rates anytime soon if that happens.


OT a bit but there's a fantastic history of prices since the Medieval Era called 'The Great Wave' that explains how spikes in fuel prices have 'led' each spike in inflation since that time and, in turn, have led to wars, cannabalism, drug use and all sorts of other ills. It sounds a bit far fetched but it is a pretty breezy read and summarizes a lot of pretty dense histories of prices in one 200 some odd page book.


Thanks for the heads up. I just read a summary about the book and it looks very intersting. Economics is an area of personal interest, so I think I'm going to pick it up. ;-D
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Postby RedWoodTree824 » Mon May 07, 2007 2:12 pm

That shiny new bike is looking pretty good right about now.
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Postby JTWood » Mon May 07, 2007 2:18 pm

RugbyD wrote:Oil companies have not built new refineries b/c there's little reason to. When the govt heavily subsidizes your supposed future direct competition and constantly threathens to steal your money via "windfall profits" taxes, why would you bother with the CapEx on something that takes a very long time to complete and bring into operation?

Exactly. We bring these high prices on ourselves by having laws and a legislature in place that do not promote new refining and exploratory means.

That goes for both Republicans and Democrats.
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Postby Madison » Mon May 07, 2007 2:23 pm

I agree with Knapp on this one. Prices are already too high, and when the gas companies are banking record profits for any business for any year (Exxon), yet prices are still climbing, there's definitely something wrong.

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Postby madmikey » Mon May 07, 2007 2:38 pm

I think it's about time to buy a bike. I'm also going to look for a local job. I can't beleive the gas is going to be so high soon.
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Postby AcidRock23 » Mon May 07, 2007 2:57 pm

RugbyD wrote:Oil companies have not built new refineries b/c there's little reason to. When the govt heavily subsidizes your supposed future direct competition and constantly threathens to steal your money via "windfall profits" taxes, why would you bother with the CapEx on something that takes a very long time to complete and bring into operation?


also, if oil companies are 'managing' production, they would likely look closely at the cost now of refineries vs. the return on that investment in 10 or 15 years when production drops and, if it's not a clear 'win', why bother?
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Postby StlSluggers » Mon May 07, 2007 3:00 pm

madmikey wrote:I think it's about time to buy a bike. I'm also going to look for a local job. I can't beleive the gas is going to be so high soon.

My work is going to start me on a WAH program soon.

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