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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:32 am

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/col_r ... d=37998117

Negotiations have been oh so quiet, but Maddux, Cubs still not close
Posted January 12, 2004

By Barry Rozner

Unless there's a dramatic change in the Cubs' philosophy over the next 24-48 hours, fans can stop dreaming of a return to Chicago for Greg Maddux.

A Cubs source said Sunday night that the team was trying to scrape up money for an offer befitting the future Hall of Famer, but that the team probably wasn't going to be able to match significant offers from two other clubs.

As reported here more than a month ago, Maddux's first choice was to return to Chicago to end his career with the Cubs, hopefully with another World Series ring in his pocket and his 300th victory in the bank.

Since then, negotiations have been quietly ongoing, sources on both sides have been telling us for weeks.

The Cubs have tried to downplay expectations of a Maddux return because another failure to sign Maddux would be heartbreaking to the fans who still haven't gotten over the Stan Cook-Larry Himes disaster of 1991-1992.

The Cubs have to deny it for public-relations reasons, but the fact is talks have been slow but consistent, with Maddux waiting to see if the Cubs would emerge from the pack with a respectable offer.

Sources close to Maddux say he already has on the table two major offers (rumored to be from the Cardinals and the Orioles), and several smaller ones from teams hoping to get him at a ridiculously reduced price.

The Giants also are thought to be entering the fray.

The problem, Cubs general manager Jim Hendry is probably thinking, is that if he somehow finds the extra money it would take to sign a Maddux and/or a Pudge Rodriguez, he would leave no funds available for midseason acquisitions.

As dominant as the Cubs would look by adding Maddux and/or Rodriguez, you can never forecast injuries, and Hendry is smart to worry about contingencies.

However, the Cubs might be able to run out to such a big lead in the NL Central that they won't have to worry about finding the next Randall Simon and Kenny Lofton.

Besides, the Cubs could make a fortune off these guys and earn their money back plus some when they're playing meaningful games in August and September.

No, they can't sell many more tickets than they already have without two more big names, and it's a hard sell to ownership when it knows it can win the division without any more signings.

But imagine the TV ratings when Maddux is going for No. 300.

Imagine the ad rates the Cubs could charge down the stretch when they're attempting to clinch.

Imagine the fun this would be.

Maddux is no fool, and neither are Cubs fans. Everyone knows the market is shrinking and there aren't any better places for Maddux to pitch.

He wants to win. He wants to stay in the National League. He wants to pitch at least two more years. He wants to be paid a reasonable wage. He wants to be within a few hours' flying distance of Las Vegas.

He'd like to come "home'' and give something back to Cubs fans, who still treat him like a king.

Only one team can give him all these things. The Cubs are aware of this and are trying to use that leverage to keep the price down, hoping he will fall into their laps.

But that's not going to happen.

It's really quite simple. If the Cubs don't make a respectable offer very soon, Maddux will find another place to play.

The reason you've heard nothing about these talks in the last month is because Hendry also is no dummy. He knows if this falls apart, he will have to deny negotiations ever took place, or risk alienating Cubs fans.

It's just that there are so many reasons to do it and only one not to: money. The Cubs can find it, and they should.

If they don't, the Cubs still are the team to catch in the NL, and it won't derail their World Series train.

But it sure will take some of the steam out of it.


i think the orioles will probably offer maddux the best financial package but i think he would prefer the NL and someplace midwest or west. i find it somewhat hard to believe that the cardinals have made a 'significant' offer though.
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Postby CardinalFreek989 » Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:36 pm

yeah same here but if the cardinals somehow did end up getting maddux I think he would be great for their team in the #3 role of their rotation and he still probably has 2 more really good years left in him.
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:40 pm

I really don't see the Cubbies making a significant run at him...at the price he is asking.....Some money will have to be in the basket for mid-season moves as well...so unless the price drops to around $8 million a season...I don' think the Cubbie will have him.... :-?

If the Cards did add him...He would definately be a improvement inthe Middle of their rotation....Matt, Woody, Maddux and Suppan...could turn out to be nice.... :-)
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Postby Nisly » Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:07 pm

DHC, what's the "Chicago take" on Maddux? Is there any lingering resentment over how he left the first time? I think he'd be an improvement to our staff, but I'm not real excited about the prospects of him joining the team. I think I may still be bitter about what he did to my staff last season. He killed me the first several months of the year.
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:00 pm

Nisly wrote:DHC, what's the "Chicago take" on Maddux? Is there any lingering resentment over how he left the first time?


I have not heard any bad talk about him at all....and in reality, If it would happen that he comes back to Chicago, the people of Chicago would open their arms and welcome him back..... B-)

but the other side is...Chicago's baseball fans are smart....and they will not like it if Mr. Hendry overspends to get him..... :-o
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:08 am

i live in chicago and from what i hear from the cub fans i have talked to is that they would love to have maddux but they would much rather have someone like pudge instead. pitching really isnt the priority at the moment. they would rather add a bat or save the money for better flexibility at the trade deadline. i dont get the impression that people are bitter about the way he left.

if maddux joins the cards the nl central is going to be one hell of a wild race. i dont want to get my hopes up though. its more likely the cards will announce the signing of a former 18 game winner................ kent bottenfield.
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