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Postby smoothcats13 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:17 pm

What's going on with M. Rivera? I'm thinking about trading for him, but I am a little worried as he is getting old. It's the last year of his contract, so I was expecting a good year. Anyone seen him pitch this year? How has he looked?
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Postby lane_anasazi2 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:13 pm

smoothcats13 wrote:It's the last year of his contract, so I was expecting a good year.


THAT'S why you're expecting a good year from MARIANO RIVERA?
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Postby Papelbon Fire » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:23 pm

I don't see him closing next year. Which is unfortunate cause I'm a Sox fan and he's almost like the 10th man in our lineup.
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Postby chinst » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:41 pm

I wouldn't be too worried. The last two seasons his ERA's were higher in April -- granted, not his current 7+, but higher nonetheless. Perhaps, as he gets older, he is starting slower. He blew a save in April last year and two in April 2005. He'll warm up with the weather. He hasn't been pitching too badly.

It is a small sampe size -- he has only made 7 appearances to date, but let's look at some defense independent indicators:
His K/9 is excellent at 9.95 and above his career average.
His BB/9 is only slightly elevated at 2.84 (his career BB/9 is 2.31)
Here's the scary part: his groundball rate fell off a cliff -- GO/AO 0.57. The last three seasons his GO/AO rates were 2.16, 1.44, and 2.33.

But, that should right itself, I would attribute that to simply a rough stretch and a poor sample size. I can't see his K rate increasing, his walk rate remaining normal and suddenly everyone hits the ball in the air on him. erhaps it indicated a correctable mechanical flaw that is making his pitches end up high in the zone. Also, since he has only given up one homerun, his GO/AO rate increasing doesn't seem to be anything but an anomaly and certainly not his problem. If you remove that one outing were Marco Scutaro guessed right and hit that one homer, Mo's ERA would be a respectable 3.18.

He has had two bad outings in seven appearances, unfortunately those two happened to be his only two save opportunities. But, certainly Rivera didn't suddenly develop an aversion to pressure. I could see him getting older and losing his effectiveness, I can't see him suddenly become a choker.
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Postby quitesanemax » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:32 am

chinst wrote:
He has had two bad outings in seven appearances...


And the one against the Red Sox might have been because he hadn't pitched for 5 days, so he was a bit rusty. Hes used to pitching more often than that.... just a thought. (Or maybe a hope, since I have him on my team, and he isn't tradable right now. lol.)
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Postby 5 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:34 am

Is still don't get it...why do they call him "Mo"? :-? Because he mows down the hitters? It always sounded ridiculous when Torre or someone referred to him as Mo.

Nicknames change so maybe they should call him "Blo" ;-7
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Postby markj11 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:59 am

I just offered Verlander for him.
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Postby Benholio » Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:57 am

5 wrote:Is still don't get it...why do they call him "Mo"? :-? Because he mows down the hitters? It always sounded ridiculous when Torre or someone referred to him as Mo.

Nicknames change so maybe they should call him "Blo" ;-7


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Postby tgalv » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:22 pm

Papelbon Fire wrote:I don't see him closing next year.

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Postby 5 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:29 pm

Benholio wrote:
5 wrote:Is still don't get it...why do they call him "Mo"? :-? Because he mows down the hitters? It always sounded ridiculous when Torre or someone referred to him as Mo.

Nicknames change so maybe they should call him "Blo" ;-7


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Okay then the left fielder is Hi and the third baseman is Ad

Thanks Bo ;-)
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