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Postby hotcarl » Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:01 pm

1. Alex Sanchez cf
2. Fernando Vina 2b
3. Rondell White lf
4. Dmitri Young dh
5. Carlos Pena 1b
6. Eric Munson 3b
7. Bobby Higginson rf
8. Brandon Inge c
9. Carlos Guillen ss

Thats good enough for a 4th or 3rd place finish in the central :)
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Re: Projected lineups

Postby Casimir » Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:58 pm

hotcarl wrote:1. Alex Sanchez cf
2. Fernando Vina 2b
3. Rondell White lf
4. Dmitri Young dh
5. Carlos Pena 1b
6. Eric Munson 3b
7. Bobby Higginson rf
8. Brandon Inge c
9. Carlos Guillen ss

Thats good enough for a 4th or 3rd place finish in the central :)


I beg to differ a tiny bit:
1. Sanchez, cf
2. Vina, 2b
3. Young, dh
4. Munson, 3b
5. White, lf
6. Pena, 1b
7. Higginson/Monroe, rf
8. Guillen, ss
9. Inge, c

I moved the middle of the lineup around a bit. I like breaking up a string of righties/lefties to mess with the opponents' bullpen. Everyone's got situational lefties, and seemingly use them sparingly. :-[

Plus, I've got a hunch that Munson is going to have a breakthrough season at the plate. Now that the experiment of learning 3rd is over (sure, he's got more to learn, but he showed enough at the hot corner to be a huge liability), he should be a bit more comfortable at the plate. ;-D

Also, I think Higgy's gonna be pushed on purpose by the staff this season, and by the play of Monroe. If Monroe could learn to hit righties, Higgy would definitely be expendable. Of course, some other GM would be nuts to take on Higgy's salary, but that's another story.

If IRod finds his way to Motown, I put him in the 3rd slot of the order, bump everyone down a notch, and Inge grabs some pine or gets sent to Toledo.

In any event, I think Monroe will get decent playing time considering the brittleness of White over his career and Higgy in more recent times.

This lineup is vastly better than last season by the addition of talent, maturing of others by experience, and the combined synergy of these two factors. Good enough for 4th, but I'm not so sure about 3rd. Chicago should be good enough to finish 3rd, no less, with Kansas City and Minnesota battling for the division crown.
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Re: Projected lineups

Postby DieHardCubbie » Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:11 am

Casimir wrote:
Plus, I've got a hunch that Munson is going to have a breakthrough season at the plate. Now that the experiment of learning 3rd is over (sure, he's got more to learn, but he showed enough at the hot corner to be a huge liability), he should be a bit more comfortable at the plate. ;-D


I like this kid alot....and I think he is flying under most radars.... :-)

Now if he just didn't play half of his games on that huge ball park.... :-/
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Re: Projected lineups

Postby Casimir » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:29 am

DieHardCubbie wrote:
Casimir wrote:
Plus, I've got a hunch that Munson is going to have a breakthrough season at the plate. Now that the experiment of learning 3rd is over (sure, he's got more to learn, but he showed enough at the hot corner to be a huge liability), he should be a bit more comfortable at the plate. ;-D


I like this kid alot....and I think he is flying under most radars.... :-)

Now if he just didn't play half of his games on that huge ball park.... :-/


I consider him one of my midrange sleepers as well. I really think he's going to be serious quality as a Tiger. ;-D

I don't think the ball park will hurt him as much as people think. It will take a way a few HRs, sure. But, before Dean Palmer went down with his series of injuries, he had gotten decently adept at shooting the ball down the RF line, which many rumors suggest has a bit of "jet stream" effect.

The ballpark gets a bad rap, in my opinion. It may take away HRs, but the huge gaps would add BA (and OBP) as well as 2Bs and 3Bs (minimizing some of the effect on losing HRs and SLG). The Tigers were not the worst team in baseball in terms of hitting HRs (they were 21st last season, and some teams trailed Detroit by 30 HRs).

By most people's thinking, they should have the biggest disadvantage by playing half of their games in Commercial Park. And in looking at the lineup last season, you wouldn't think that hitting HRs would've been as normal as other teams. :-?

Once some quality hitters start learning their hitting strokes better and can apply general hitting theories to their swings so that they can be successful in hitting the gaps (a good strategy in any park), and once Dave Dombrowski gets some more talent into that lineup, I really think Commercial Park will confuse some once they look at the raw numbers and compare them to the reputation that the ball park has.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:42 pm

Good info and opinion there, Casimir.

My thoughts were that Vina would hit 1st. Isnt he a career leadoff hitter?

Im gonna have to disagree withyou about the AL Central however.

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Postby CardinalFreek989 » Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:48 pm

hotcarl wrote:
1. Alex Sanchez cf
2. Fernando Vina 2b
3. Rondell White lf
4. Dmitri Young dh
5. Carlos Pena 1b
6. Eric Munson 3b
7. Bobby Higginson rf
8. Brandon Inge c
9. Carlos Guillen ss

Thats good enough for a 4th or 3rd place finish in the central


and now pudge will probably go between white and young... im not ruling them out of a fight for the al central...
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Postby mcqfesijiba » Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:19 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Good info and opinion there, Casimir.

My thoughts were that Vina would hit 1st. Isnt he a career leadoff hitter?

Im gonna have to disagree withyou about the AL Central however.

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I heard that they are going to go with Sanchez's speed first, but nothing's set in stone. Spring Training might be the determining factor there.

As far as those predictions go, I say those are a definite possibility. I'm still very concerned about the Tigers' pitching, and I still have trouble seeing them overtake anyone other than the Indians. But add Ivan Rodriguez to the mix and a few things don't quite go the way they did for the Royals and/or Sox as last season, and I can definitely see them finishing better than fourth. Every team in this division has issues. I think the Tigers' best chance to overtake anyone other than the Indians, is the White Sox.
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Postby Casimir » Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:35 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Good info and opinion there, Casimir.

My thoughts were that Vina would hit 1st. Isnt he a career leadoff hitter?

Im gonna have to disagree withyou about the AL Central however.

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I'd put Vina hitting behind Sanchez because of Sanchez having the better speed, and Vina the better bat control. A bit of a 'small ball philosphy' I suppose, but this is how I would do it.
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Postby Casimir » Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:36 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Good info and opinion there, Casimir.

My thoughts were that Vina would hit 1st. Isnt he a career leadoff hitter?

Im gonna have to disagree withyou about the AL Central however.

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I'd put Vina hitting behind Sanchez because of Sanchez having the better speed, and Vina the better bat control. A bit of a 'small ball philosphy' I suppose, but this is how I would do it.
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Postby hotcarl » Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:01 am

1. Sanchez cf
2. Vina 2b
3. Pudge C
4. Young DH
5. Pena lb
6. White rf
7. Munson 3b
8. Higgy (RHP)
9. guillen ss

LHP

1. Sanchez cf
2. Vina 2b
3. Pudge C
4. Young DH
5. Monroe rf
6. Munson 3b
7. white lf
8. Pena 1b
9. guillen ss

Rotation

1. Johnson
2. Maroth
3. Bonderman
4. Cornejo
5. Knotts/Baugh(hopefully)???
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