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Postby jahmon » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:45 pm

Hey all, new poster here.

In a 12 team H2H non keeper 7x7 yahoo league, few trades went down last week and there is some debate whether they are legit or not. Please advise on these trades:

Trade #1

CZambrano/Sheff for Berkman/Cain (from about 10 days ago)

Trade #2

Harden/Rios/Sexson for MCabrera/Cuddyer/Arroyo/Bonderman (from about 5 days ago)

Trade #3

Adam LaRoche/Clemens for MYoung (4 days ago)

I think trade #1 is pretty fair, no problems here, but can't see how trade #2 isn't heavily lopsided to team acquiring Cabrera, et al. even if Harden was healthy (and he was scheduled to make his Apr 24 start at the time). Trade #3 seems to favor team acquiring Young, even though he has started terribly (as has LaRoche for that matter).

Any comments appreciated
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Postby Crippler » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:30 pm

Doesnt matter if they are even or not. If they werent in collusion then they should go right through.
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Postby 2muchchalk » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:22 pm

yes some of the trades are exactly equal, but they are not veto material i believe.
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Postby CBMGreatOne » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:33 pm

#2 is vetoable, the others aren't.

Actually #2 looks a LOT like collusion.

That's why collusion is never the only reason to veto. You can't prove collusion, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to suggest it is taking place here.
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Postby jahmon » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:08 pm

OK, excuse me for asking, but what exactly is meant by collusion in regards to fantasy baseball? Delibrately trading good players from one team to the other for lesser players?
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Postby CBMGreatOne » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:10 pm

OK, excuse me for asking, but what exactly is meant by collusion in regards to fantasy baseball? Delibrately trading good players from one team to the other for lesser players?


Collusion means that two teams have an agreement to improve one of the teams by means of a lopsided trade. At least that's its applicable definition here.
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Postby bpizle » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:29 am

As a commisioner your job is to make the league run as fun, fair and smooth as possible. If these trades arent in any collusion efforts. I think we are ok.
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Postby toledomudhens » Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:00 am

i think #2 is the only deal i have a real problem with.. i wouln't have traded miggy and bondy for those 3 guys, never mind throwing in 2 more good players in that deal.. this trade should have not been let threw.
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Postby converge241 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:45 pm

1 and 3 are totally fine

I would hate to say veto 2 but it does look WAY lopsided past that okay to be lopsided point
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