Tommy John Surgery

[Coppermine]

Is anybody capable of such an injury that would require tommy john surgery?

I think the surgery is a myth.

Tell that to Tommy John. Didn't they Koufax may have been able to continue pitching if the surgery existed then?

[The Miner Part 2]

Is anybody capable of such an injury that would require tommy john surgery?

I think the surgery is a myth.

Nope, it's not a myth.

Rivera and Smoltz had it done. That's it though.

[RynMan]

BTW the reason pitcher typically throw harder after TJ operation is because of the workout regime they have to go through while recovering. If your teammate works hard and does what the doctors tell him there is an exceptionally good chance he will be as good or better than he was before.

Exactly. I think people automatically assume that it is the intervention that causes the improvement directly, but this isn't the case. Ligaments are simply structural, with no contraction. Therefore improving the integrity of one in the elbow won't do a lot to help you throw harder. A lot of the time, it just means the pitcher no longer is throwing with pain, therefore they feel better and can perform at maximum levels.

[byfrcp]

BTW the reason pitcher typically throw harder after TJ operation is because of the workout regime they have to go through while recovering. If your teammate works hard and does what the doctors tell him there is an exceptionally good chance he will be as good or better than he was before.

Exactly. I think people automatically assume that it is the intervention that causes the improvement directly, but this isn't the case. Ligaments are simply structural, with no contraction. Therefore improving the integrity of one in the elbow won't do a lot to help you throw harder. A lot of the time, it just means the pitcher no longer is throwing with pain, therefore they feel better and can perform at maximum levels.

Actually if you saw the movie "Rookie of the Year" you'd know that isn't true. Henry Rowangardner could throw like 105 after his ligaments healed, and he was only 13.

[Snakes Gould]

BTW the reason pitcher typically throw harder after TJ operation is because of the workout regime they have to go through while recovering. If your teammate works hard and does what the doctors tell him there is an exceptionally good chance he will be as good or better than he was before.

Exactly. I think people automatically assume that it is the intervention that causes the improvement directly, but this isn't the case. Ligaments are simply structural, with no contraction. Therefore improving the integrity of one in the elbow won't do a lot to help you throw harder. A lot of the time, it just means the pitcher no longer is throwing with pain, therefore they feel better and can perform at maximum levels.

Actually if you saw the movie "Rookie of the Year" you'd know that isn't true. Henry Rowangardner could throw like 105 after his ligaments healed, and he was only 13.

very good point. extremely good point. you're on the ball

[RynMan]

Actually if you saw the movie "Rookie of the Year" you'd know that isn't true. Henry Rowangardner could throw like 105 after his ligaments healed, and he was only 13.

Dang. Ah well - thought I'd give it a shot.