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Postby Coppermine » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:52 pm

cordscords wrote:Is anybody capable of such an injury that would require tommy john surgery?

I think the surgery is a myth.


Tell that to Tommy John. Didn't they Koufax may have been able to continue pitching if the surgery existed then?
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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:40 pm

cordscords wrote:Is anybody capable of such an injury that would require tommy john surgery?

I think the surgery is a myth.


Nope, it's not a myth.

Rivera and Smoltz had it done. That's it though.
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Postby RynMan » Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:28 am

thedude wrote:BTW the reason pitcher typically throw harder after TJ operation is because of the workout regime they have to go through while recovering. If your teammate works hard and does what the doctors tell him there is an exceptionally good chance he will be as good or better than he was before.


Exactly. I think people automatically assume that it is the intervention that causes the improvement directly, but this isn't the case. Ligaments are simply structural, with no contraction. Therefore improving the integrity of one in the elbow won't do a lot to help you throw harder. A lot of the time, it just means the pitcher no longer is throwing with pain, therefore they feel better and can perform at maximum levels.
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Postby byfrcp » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:48 am

RynMan wrote:
thedude wrote:BTW the reason pitcher typically throw harder after TJ operation is because of the workout regime they have to go through while recovering. If your teammate works hard and does what the doctors tell him there is an exceptionally good chance he will be as good or better than he was before.


Exactly. I think people automatically assume that it is the intervention that causes the improvement directly, but this isn't the case. Ligaments are simply structural, with no contraction. Therefore improving the integrity of one in the elbow won't do a lot to help you throw harder. A lot of the time, it just means the pitcher no longer is throwing with pain, therefore they feel better and can perform at maximum levels.


Actually if you saw the movie "Rookie of the Year" you'd know that isn't true. Henry Rowangardner could throw like 105 after his ligaments healed, and he was only 13.
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Postby Snakes Gould » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:19 am

byfrcp wrote:
RynMan wrote:
thedude wrote:BTW the reason pitcher typically throw harder after TJ operation is because of the workout regime they have to go through while recovering. If your teammate works hard and does what the doctors tell him there is an exceptionally good chance he will be as good or better than he was before.


Exactly. I think people automatically assume that it is the intervention that causes the improvement directly, but this isn't the case. Ligaments are simply structural, with no contraction. Therefore improving the integrity of one in the elbow won't do a lot to help you throw harder. A lot of the time, it just means the pitcher no longer is throwing with pain, therefore they feel better and can perform at maximum levels.


Actually if you saw the movie "Rookie of the Year" you'd know that isn't true. Henry Rowangardner could throw like 105 after his ligaments healed, and he was only 13.


very good point. extremely good point. you're on the ball ;-D
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Postby RynMan » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:36 pm

byfrcp wrote:Actually if you saw the movie "Rookie of the Year" you'd know that isn't true. Henry Rowangardner could throw like 105 after his ligaments healed, and he was only 13.


Dang. Ah well - thought I'd give it a shot.
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