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Re: lofton or victorino?

Postby angels7777 » Sat May 05, 2007 5:42 pm

x_Momentum wrote:
djxskillz wrote:who would you rather have? lofton or victorino? who plays more games this year??? im deciding if i should drop lofton


Wrong forum buddy.

But to answer your question, I would just hold onto Lofton. Victorino could just be throwing out some bursts of speed for now (ex. Adam Dunn?! :-B ) but Lofton is known to steal bags left and right sooo, IMO i'd stick with Lofton.


what!?!? He is showing bursts of speed. A guy who steals 13 this early in the season is obviosuly a base stealer or at least has good speed. If he gets on base he will steal bases all year. He won't just stop. Base stealers are not just flashes in the pan like a guy who starts the season hot...
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Postby Ed Harley » Sat May 05, 2007 6:00 pm

Victorino always had good speed , the big difference is that he is learning how to become a base stealer. He hits for a solid average, and he has walked so far this year at a much higher rate compared to last year.
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Postby duckbillgates » Sat May 05, 2007 6:04 pm

For those who are somehow still on the fence:

Shane Victorino was supposed be the pet project of new Phillies first base coach Davey Lopes, who was a fantastic basestealer during his MLB career. Victorino stole 45 bags twice in the minors, but hadn't been successful in the bigs until now.

That fact, coupled with his slot in the two-hole for Philly, made him a great sleeper in drafts this year (I have him on both of my 12-teamers, drafted in the 14th and 18th rounds).

His recent flurry of hits has kicked up what was a low batting average, but he's been walking all season long. His OBP is around .400, and the struggles of the Phillies are the key reason he doesn't have a ton of runs. Those will come, as will a handful of home runs (with some help from that park, he could hit 10 or so, not bad for a stolen base specialist).

He is now 13-for-15 in stolen base attempts. Steals do, for whatever reason, tend to come in flurries, but he's now on pace for about 55 steals.

As of right now, he should be taken and started in virtually every league. OK?
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Postby Birds05 » Sat May 05, 2007 10:01 pm

Man, I just traded C. Duncan and Victorino for J. Bay. I was feeling pretty good about the deal, but Shane is tearing it up!

Do you think he will keep this up? He is looking $$.

Luckily I still have J. Reyes and B. Roberts.
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Postby George_Foreman » Sat May 05, 2007 10:21 pm

Victorino could easily end up a top-100 player, but I don't think he'll be anywhere near good enough to make that deal a loser for you.
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Postby duckbillgates » Sun May 06, 2007 11:36 pm

I did just have to note that Victorino hit his first homer of the season off super-prospect Tim Lincecum.

I would say that his S.F. series has him on the radar now. Add him while you can.
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Postby shmolex » Mon May 07, 2007 12:24 am

Victorino may be good, but apparently he's also a douchebag as witnessed in tonight's game.
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Postby River Rat » Mon May 07, 2007 12:33 am

What did this douchebagger do? I was not watching the game.
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Postby shmolex » Mon May 07, 2007 12:42 am

River Rat wrote:What did this douchebagger do? I was not watching the game.


He gets picked off first and is caught in a rundown. As they are chasing him back and forth, he veers way into the infield grass and intentionally crashes into Visquel and the umps call it interference and he gets 2nd base. Then he spends like 5 minutes on 2nd trying to explain to the 11 time gold glover how what he did was legal and after he eventually scores, he has the douchebaggiest smirk on his face.

:-t :-t

I would drop him if I didn't have him in my money league.
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Postby canadastar » Mon May 07, 2007 12:52 am

Haha don't hate on Vic, he was just getting away with some sneaky play there...there are calls that go either way throughout games, most notably balls and strikes. A good runner will find a way to get to his target.

The real douchebag is Joe Morgan...ever really listen to this guy talk? He just shoots down everything Jon Miller says and has no constructive statements whatsoever. He even took time to spend about 3 minutes talking about his daughters' soccer and gymnastics teams. He may have been a great player, but he's still a douchebag.
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