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Postby dundeeslugger » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:18 am

Sounds like he will be the Cubs #5 in a week or two.

He was one of the fist sleepers listed on this site. Do people think he could become a decent guy in a deep pitching league?
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Postby Dmville » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:16 am

Well he started 10 games last year---0 wins, got through the 6th inning once. He tried out for the 5th spot this spring and couldn't rise above Wade Miller. He's been just ok in MR this season.

While Lou may think he's the answer for the 5th spot, I doubt he's worth having on any fantasy team.
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Postby dundeeslugger » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:30 am

Dmville wrote:Well he started 10 games last year---0 wins, got through the 6th inning once. He tried out for the 5th spot this spring and couldn't rise above Wade Miller. He's been just ok in MR this season.

While Lou may think he's the answer for the 5th spot, I doubt he's worth having on any fantasy team.


That's what my thoughts were. Figured the writers on here didn't know too much.
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Postby jnormy » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:56 am

dundeeslugger wrote:
Dmville wrote:Well he started 10 games last year---0 wins, got through the 6th inning once. He tried out for the 5th spot this spring and couldn't rise above Wade Miller. He's been just ok in MR this season.

While Lou may think he's the answer for the 5th spot, I doubt he's worth having on any fantasy team.


That's what my thoughts were. Figured the writers on here didn't know too much.


Well, you said the writers here called him a sleeper right? I don't think that's too far off the mark. If he had a great year last year, he wouldn't be a sleeper now, would he?

He'a a former top prospect who -- while he didn't pitch well last year by any stretch of the imagination -- managed to get through his first healthy season in four years. He's only 25 years old, still has a plus fastball, and puts up decent K/9 numbers. Where he struggles at times is with bouts of wildness. But Wade Miller looks like a shell of his former self right now and Prior will prob. never be healthy, so a couple of decent starts in the minors might put Guzman in line for that #5 spot. IMO, that qualifies him as a sleeper.

He might end up sucking bigtime again, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on his progress. If he improves his control and starts flashing some of his past potential, maybe you can steal him out from under your leaguemates.
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Postby dundeeslugger » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:08 am

if that's the case, perhaps Sidney Ponson is a sleeper
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Postby jnormy » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:18 am

dundeeslugger wrote:if that's the case, perhaps Sidney Ponson is a sleeper


Well sure, if there's some 25-year-old Sidney Ponson out there somewhere who hasn't already had a 10-year major league career with an ERA close to 5, only about 5 K/9, and a .285 BAA. :-D
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Postby Inukchuk » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:27 am

dundeeslugger wrote:if that's the case, perhaps Sidney Ponson is a sleeper


If that's what you think, and can give a decent argument (which I doubt), I would listen. Matt Robinson's article on Guzman wasn't advocating a pickup, just a guy to keep an eye on. If he sucks, oh well, that's what most people would expect. If he does break out, then guess who has the jump on him. The point is, different people have different points of view on under the radar players. I for one like to hear them. If you have any insight as to why I shouldn't keep an eye on his progress, by all means convince me...
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Postby dundeeslugger » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:25 pm

I know, I'm just feeding everyone a bunch of crap anyways.

Besides that, I think the Cubs call up Marmol before Guzman.
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Postby B-Chad » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:49 pm

Dundee do you play in like a 4 team league where there is no need to keep an eye on anyone outside of the top 4 at their respective positions? As someone else stated, sleeper implies that they have the tools and in their limited opportunities haven't yet fullfilled expectations. That said, he may have the opportunity this year to take advantage of having a plus fastball, a decent lineup behind him to potentially get him some W's, and a good k rate.
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Postby cookman » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:12 pm

dundeeslugger wrote:I know, I'm just feeding everyone a bunch of crap anyways.

Besides that, I think the Cubs call up Marmol before Guzman.


Not a chance.
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