Justin "Cy Young" Verlander?

[dillpickle]

Because he was very lucky last year and he was abused last year which is not a good combo. The entire point of selling high is to get more reliable talent for a riskier player.

This is a very funny post. "...he was abused last year..." Guess I need "abused" to be defined when describing MLB pitchers. Verlander averaged 99 pitches a start last year. I understand pitchers in todays MLB are pampered and babied, but it is a new low when someone actually thinks a starting pitcher that averages 99 pitches a game is "abused".

[NYCBuckeye]

WhiteHot, your post gave me chuckle. You are talking smack like I want to give Verlander a reach-around or something. I just started this post to recognize his great start, I could care less if you think he is a scrub. And by definition, if King Felix was 1000 times better than JV, should't he be 1000-0? Just asking.

[Geek]

Because he was very lucky last year and he was abused last year which is not a good combo. The entire point of selling high is to get more reliable talent for a riskier player.

This is a very funny post. "...he was abused last year..." Guess I need "abused" to be defined when describing MLB pitchers. Verlander averaged 99 pitches a start last year. I understand pitchers in todays MLB are pampered and babied, but it is a new low when someone actually thinks a starting pitcher that averages 99 pitches a game is "abused".

The concern is when young pitchers wind up logging an additional months' worth of work after setting career highs in innings.

His arm was feeling dead towards the end of last year.

[WhiteHot]

And by definition, if King Felix was 1000 times better than JV, should't he be 1000-0? Just asking.

Felix hasn't pitched 1000 games this season...can't be 1000-0 yet.

[mikhayl]

Lest we all forget, his pre-break numbers from last year were also pretty sick.

10-4
3.01 ERA
1.17 WHIP
69 K
110 IP

Post-break, not so much.

7-5
4.54 ERA
1.55 WHIP
55 K
75 IP

Unless you have faith that he's adapted to the schedule, he could be a sell high in a few months.

[High Heater]

Ok, I know, he just got his first win tonight, but check out his numbers through three starts (yes, its early, just a tongue-in-cheek discussion starter for those adamant about saving these posts till after the All-Star Break ...):

1-0, 1.42 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, 15 Ks in 19 innings

Not bad for a guy with a supposed "dead arm" after the workload last year ...

Check out these numbers:

2-0, 0.00 ERA, 0.47 WHIP, 18 Ks in 17 innings.

That's King Felix and he's 1000 times better than Justin "Scrub" Verlander.

scrub? lol

hows Felix forya on the DL?

[NYCBuckeye]

Ok, I know, he just got his first win tonight, but check out his numbers through three starts (yes, its early, just a tongue-in-cheek discussion starter for those adamant about saving these posts till after the All-Star Break ...):

1-0, 1.42 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, 15 Ks in 19 innings

Not bad for a guy with a supposed "dead arm" after the workload last year ...

Check out these numbers:

2-0, 0.00 ERA, 0.47 WHIP, 18 Ks in 17 innings.

That's King Felix and he's 1000 times better than Justin "Scrub" Verlander.

WhiteHot, still think "King" Felix is better than Justin "Scrub" Verlander ... it's time to bump up this post, as Verlander is definitely in contention for a Cy Young. He has looked down-right dominant lately. Will he keep this up??

[Secret Avatar]

Highly unlikely he can sustain this pace. His xERA is 3.80 which indicates he has been quite lucky in terms of balls-in-play turning into outs rather than hits. But Detriot as a whole is over-achieving and can't do any wrong so far, so maybe he can beat the odds. It's a great time to own Verlander but I think a correction is in the works.