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by **West** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:12 pm

Another Rich (Harden) will be in the mix as well, provided he stays healthy. He looks great this year.

by **thedude** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:19 am

He has been about as good as Tim Wakefield (1.38 Era, 0.92 WHIP) so far.

by **zevon** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:16 pm

thedude wrote:He has been about as good as Tim Wakefield (1.38 Era, 0.92 WHIP) so far.

Pretty comparable to Beckett too, outside the whole 3-0 record thing for Josh:

1.50 ERA

18 K's in 18 innings

0.83 WHIP

by **Ender** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:29 pm

My opinion, find someone who agrees with you and sell high while you can.

by **J35J** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:41 pm

Ender wrote:My opinion, find someone who agrees with you and sell high while you can.

by **NYCBuckeye** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:24 pm

Just curious: why should I trade a young stud like Verlander away?

by **Ender** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:59 pm

Because he was very lucky last year and he was abused last year which is not a good combo. The entire point of selling high is to get more reliable talent for a riskier player.

by **J35J** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:00 pm

Exactly, Verlander is good but not top shelf. If you can get a top shelf guy back then thats what it is all about.

by **WhiteHot** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:05 pm

NYCBuckeye wrote:Ok, I know, he just got his first win tonight, but check out his numbers through three starts (yes, its early, just a tongue-in-cheek discussion starter for those adamant about saving these posts till after the All-Star Break ...):

1-0, 1.42 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, 15 Ks in 19 innings

Not bad for a guy with a supposed "dead arm" after the workload last year ...

Check out these numbers:

2-0, 0.00 ERA, 0.47 WHIP, 18 Ks in 17 innings.

That's King Felix and he's 1000 times better than Justin "Scrub" Verlander.

by **jake_harv88** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:11 pm

J35J wrote:Exactly, Verlander is good but not top shelf. If you can get a top shelf guy back then thats what it is all about.

J35J pretty much sums it up here. Its always about getting something for less than what its worth. I'm not saying Verlander is going to have a bad year or ever perform poorly the rest of the way. I'm saying he'll probably never perform as well and therefore if you can get better value for him then you should pull the trigger...

PS. Verlander will not be cy young unless santana and halladay decide to fall off the planet

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