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Postby crazycanuck » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:11 pm

ivesaidway2much wrote:
josebach wrote:
ivesaidway2much wrote:Much like the significant difference between impatience and utter stupidity is underrated.


What was the point in saying that? A lot of people make poor decisions when they start playing and it doesn't mean they're "utterly stupid". Not everyone can be an expert their very first season like you obviously were.

Appropriate name.
Notice how impatience and stupidity are both nouns and thus can't refer to actual people. Even you had to modify the quote to turn it into an insult. People commit acts of utter stupidity all the time; that's how you gain experience. It does not necessarily make them stupid. Plus I generally try to refrain from name calling.

You were, however, right about a couple of things. First of all, I realize not everyone is a natural fantasy expert like me. But now that people can tell by just a couple of sentences I type, it's almost a curse being this good. Second, if you saw the length of some of my posts over at the Football cafe (or this one!) you'd realize my name is most definitely appropriate. (Here's the point where I would comment on how your overreaction to my post shows that your choice of avatar was pretty appropriate as well, but fortunately I'm above that kind of thing). ;-)

I stand by my previous post. The difference between impatience and utter stupidity is highly underrated.


Now that's funny :-D
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Postby ordinarygenius » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:03 pm

Though baseball is a game of long trends, Fantasy baseball is ultimately a game of timing. One needs to follow the game and know who's hot/who's not. That said, one needs to always keep his studs at play and not overthink, through good and especially through bad times, because one never knows when the big frickin' game is going to come. But Fantasy baseball is ultimately won and lost at the fringe, by those hot/not players that one must acquire and drop all the way through this long, very long season. There is an element of knowledge, there is an element of chance, but bigger than all that, there is an element of FUN.
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Postby josebach » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:27 pm

ivesaidway2much wrote:
josebach wrote:
ivesaidway2much wrote:Much like the significant difference between impatience and utter stupidity is underrated.


What was the point in saying that? A lot of people make poor decisions when they start playing and it doesn't mean they're "utterly stupid". Not everyone can be an expert their very first season like you obviously were.

Appropriate name.
Notice how impatience and stupidity are both nouns and thus can't refer to actual people. Even you had to modify the quote to turn it into an insult. People commit acts of utter stupidity all the time; that's how you gain experience. It does not necessarily make them stupid. Plus I generally try to refrain from name calling.

You were, however, right about a couple of things. First of all, I realize not everyone is a natural fantasy expert like me. But now that people can tell by just a couple of sentences I type, it's almost a curse being this good. Second, if you saw the length of some of my posts over at the Football cafe (or this one!) you'd realize my name is most definitely appropriate. (Here's the point where I would comment on how your overreaction to my post shows that your choice of avatar was pretty appropriate as well, but fortunately I'm above that kind of thing). ;-)

I stand by my previous post. The difference between impatience and utter stupidity is highly underrated.


One could call someone who acts impatiently "impatient" as one could call someone who acts utterly stupidly "utterly stupid", yes? Not exactly a giant jump in logic is it? Forgive me for not getting into a semantic battle with someone who so clearly finds his own babble witty.

I reiterate that your comments served no purpose nor did they in any way contribute to a thread designed to help people. Based on your condescension in this thread, it looks like a lot of your posts carry a certain air of pompousness. Thanks to your grammar lesson, I now know that pompousness and condescension are nouns, so I have absolutely no fear of you mistakingly thinking that I'm calling you condescending or pompous. Had you not enlightened me, I might not have said it. :-)
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Postby dukesimms » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:17 am

RocketsDWM wrote:Anyone remember Chris Shelton from last year (I am sure some savvy vets do). He had everyone running to the waiver wire in search of the next Pujols. Great first week but was later cut by the Tigers I believe.


Not cut, sent down to Toledo.

Someone in one of my leagues just dropped Dye for L. Gonzalez UGH
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Postby sadlyajetsfan » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:24 am

dukesimms wrote:
RocketsDWM wrote:Anyone remember Chris Shelton from last year (I am sure some savvy vets do). He had everyone running to the waiver wire in search of the next Pujols. Great first week but was later cut by the Tigers I believe.


Not cut, sent down to Toledo.

Someone in one of my leagues just dropped Dye for L. Gonzalez UGH


so someone dropped brob for derosa and i spent my waiver priority on hermanson!! im 8th so hope to get him...prob wont though :~(
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Postby nmarq8 » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:02 pm

Have a little trust in your draft... ;-D
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:21 pm

ordinarygenius wrote:Though baseball is a game of long trends, Fantasy baseball is ultimately a game of timing. One needs to follow the game and know who's hot/who's not. That said, one needs to always keep his studs at play and not overthink, through good and especially through bad times, because one never knows when the big frickin' game is going to come. But Fantasy baseball is ultimately won and lost at the fringe, by those hot/not players that one must acquire and drop all the way through this long, very long season. There is an element of knowledge, there is an element of chance, but bigger than all that, there is an element of FUN.


Completely disagree. Any fantasy player who thinks who can win that timing game reminds me of the typical guy playing stocks. 999 times out of 1000 buy and hold beats timing.
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Postby whoseyourdaddy12 » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:59 pm

GotowarMissAgnes wrote:
ordinarygenius wrote:Though baseball is a game of long trends, Fantasy baseball is ultimately a game of timing. One needs to follow the game and know who's hot/who's not. That said, one needs to always keep his studs at play and not overthink, through good and especially through bad times, because one never knows when the big frickin' game is going to come. But Fantasy baseball is ultimately won and lost at the fringe, by those hot/not players that one must acquire and drop all the way through this long, very long season. There is an element of knowledge, there is an element of chance, but bigger than all that, there is an element of FUN.


Completely disagree. Any fantasy player who thinks who can win that timing game reminds me of the typical guy playing stocks. 999 times out of 1000 buy and hold beats timing.


dont stocks relate to timing? :-?
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Postby Ditka311 » Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:35 pm

ivesaidway2much wrote:Personally, I think patience is overrated in fantasy baseball. Much like the significant difference between impatience and utter stupidity is underrated.


I make sure I grab the hottest available players on the wire, no matter who I have to drop for them. For example, Mike Jacobs has been tearing it up, Howard hasn't. Hello Mikey, bye bye Ryan!
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:50 pm

whoseyourdaddy12 wrote:dont stocks relate to timing? :-?


Yes.

If you think you are smarter than the average bear, you tend to get burned.

"Yet, to my shock and dismay, this massive, authoritative, and indisputable study of a million-plus investing scenarios concluded that the buy-and-hold strategy did not beat market timing 100% of the time. Imagine my shock. Imagine my shame.

Imagine my astonishment to discover that the buy-and-hold strategy beats market timing only 99.8% of the time. "

http://www.ricedelman.com/planning/inve ... ndhold.asp

Trying to "time" the market is about as effective as trying to guess which players will be hot next week. You'll be right sometimes, but as a strategy, it sucks big time.
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