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Postby Amatter32 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:07 pm

I just bolstered my minor league roster with a trade. It's an 18 team, 42 man roster league. I have been in the bottom 5 the past couple years and expect to be there again this year, so I traded my best player away.


I traded Carlos Lee, Franklin Morales, and Donald Veal (I drafted both in a FA draft last week) for Bruce, Gallardo, and Brignac.

I kinda got ripped off, but those guys will help me more than Lee would have.

With those 3 top 20 players I have the 4th best minors group, instead of being 12th.
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Postby bigken117 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:26 pm

You did get ripped off. Morales and Veal aren't slouches. You would need all three of those players to reach close to their estimated peak for the trade to be considered successful. And you won't know that for 4-5 years.
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Postby ChipperJonesFanatic » Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:27 pm

I hate the deal man.
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Postby powenM » Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:44 pm

Well I certainly like the prospects u get MUCH better then what u gave up.
I would love to see your whole roster. I love building for the future(While maintaining a good club for now) myself.

Just a quick Question. When u say 42, how many of that are on the farm club.

I run a 20teamer, 33 man roster(8 prospects on the farm) league & hope to steadily increase it.

C Jason Varitek
1B Derrek Lee
2B Aaron Hill
3B Miguel Cabrera
SS Khalil Greene
LF Jason Kubel
CF Curtis Granderson
RF Reed Johnson
Util Edwin Encarnación
Util Prince Fielder
BN Tony F. Peña
DL Jeremy Hermida

SP Rich Harden
SP Justin Verlander
RP Brian Fuentes
RP Salomón Torres
P Pat Neshek
P Derrick Turnbow
P Mike Stanton
P Ángel Guzmán
BN Aaron Heilman
BN Cole Hamels
BN Joe Blanton
BN Tom Glavine
BN Rafael Betancourt
BN Tony Armas
DL Kerry Wood

Farm Club

1 - Andy LaRoche
2 - Carlos Gonzalez
3 - Trevor Crowe
4 - Dellin Betances
5 - Jeremy Jeffress
6 - Yusmeiro Petit
7 - Justin Huber
8 - Dustin McGowan

The draft was restricted to 5 Rds(thus my top 5 players on the farm) so there is still so much untouched talent still in the minors & the upcoming amateur draft to get. Now if I only get the other owners to see the need to increase the spots on our farm clubs
Just traded BButler, BWood & JLoney for Mark Teixeira, Ryan Theriot & Renyel Pinto in a DYNASTY LEAGUE. Big gamble I know!
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Postby Amatter32 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:56 pm

SP Lilly, Ted (SP-Tor)
SP Mussina, Mike (SP-NYY)
SP Fossum, Casey (SP-TB)
SP Park, Chan Ho (SP-SD)
SP Cabrerra, Daniel (SP-Bal)
RP Zumaya, Joel (SP-Det)
RP Qualls, Chad (RP-Hou)
RP Lyon, Brandon (RP-Ari)
RP Papelbon, Jon (P-Bos)

Catcher Martin, Russell (C-LA)
1st Base Fielder, Prince (1B-Mil)
2nd Base Grudzielanek, Mark (2B-KC)
3rd Base Mora, Melvin (3B-Bal)
Shortstop Ramirez, Hanley (SS-Fla)
OF Bochard, Joe (OF-Fla)
OF Sledge, Termel (OF-SD)
OF Matthews Jr., Gary (OF-Tex)
OF Victorino, Shane (OF-Phi)
Util Uribe, Juan (SS-CWS)

Bench Cedeno, Ronny (SS-CHC)
Bench Molina, Ben (C-Tor)
Bench Broussard, Ben (1B-Cle)
Bench Cintron, Alex (2B/3B/SS-Ari)
Bench Villalona, Angel (3B-SF)
Bench Mitre, Sergio (SP-Fla)
Bench Theriot, Ryan (2B-ChC)
Bench Cantu, Jorge (2B/3B-TB)
Bench Ponson, Sidney (SP-Stl)
Bench Lieberthal, Mike (C-Phi)
Bench Mackowiak, Rob (2B/3B/OF-CWS)

2nd Team Stubbs, Drew (OF-Cin)
2nd Team Reimold, Nolan (OF-Bal)
2nd Team Martinez, Fernando (OF-NYM)
2nd Team Bourn, Michael (OF-Phi)
2nd Team Petit, Yusmerio (P-Fla)
2nd Team Hurley, Eric (P-Tex)
2nd Team Carrillo, Cesar (P-SD)
2nd Team Smardzija, Jeff (SP-CHC)
2nd Team Betances, Dellin (SP-NYY)
2nd Team Gallardo, Yovani (SP-Mil)
2nd Team Bruce, Jay (OF-Cin)
2nd Team Brignac, Reid (SS-TB)

DL Lawrence, Brian (Was-SP)
DL Garcia, Jose (SP-Fla)

2nd team is from when the league was on Yahoo and had a max of 30 players. Basically it's just bench now.

We can have as many minors as we want.



Veal and Morales aren't slouches, but there are half a dozen pitchers half a year behind where those two guys are now that aren't on a team. Also, I have 3 of the 4 first picks in the amateur draft in June. All of those picks should be better than Veal and Morales. So in a couple months they will be replaced (though Gallardo is a lot better than them as well).
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Postby jwhands » Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:09 pm

They're prospects for a reason.
Jody, Jody Davis. Hits 'em high and far. Jody, Jody Davis. He's a superstar. Holy Cow!!!! http://www.stinkytee.com
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Postby Amatter32 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:45 pm

jwhands wrote:They're prospects for a reason.


The best players were prospects too, though.
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Postby ChipperJonesFanatic » Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:46 pm

jwhands wrote:They're prospects for a reason.


Exactly.

You definately upgrade the farm, but I wouldn't trade Lee for all of them.

The thing about building for the future is most of the time the prospects won't pan out.

This could be a good deal depending on your league. Is it a contract league?
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Postby Amatter32 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:52 pm

No, it's not a contract.

I've done my research. Top 20 prospects usually become decent fantasy players at the least, and that's when they don't pan out.

Bruce even if he sucks should be better than Sledge, & Gallardo better than Fossum and Park.


It's also possible for me to trade those 3 guys for another Lee-type player, too ;-)
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Postby High Heater » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:22 am

i loved the trade for you imo. good deal
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