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Postby CheeseBeger » Wed May 09, 2007 7:58 pm

Pretty good article by Dobbs.

StlSluggers wrote:But before the faithful acquiesce in the false choice offered by the good Reverend, perhaps he and his followers should consult Romans 13, where it is written: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."


That is kind of a scary thought...
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Postby knapplc » Wed May 09, 2007 9:05 pm

CheeseBeger wrote:Pretty good article by Dobbs.

StlSluggers wrote:But before the faithful acquiesce in the false choice offered by the good Reverend, perhaps he and his followers should consult Romans 13, where it is written: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."


That is kind of a scary thought...


When Judah was destroyed and hauled off to exile by the Babylonians it was with God's full knowledge and blessing - He even named Nebuchadnezzar His "servant." God established Babylon and used them as a tool against his wayward and disobedient children.
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Postby CheeseBeger » Wed May 09, 2007 9:56 pm

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Postby knapplc » Wed May 09, 2007 11:24 pm

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Postby bigh0rt » Thu May 10, 2007 1:49 am

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Postby Half Massed » Thu May 10, 2007 3:11 am



I think that's an overreaction. If you've studied any psychology, it becomes very clear that obedience is hard to break out of for most of humanity, even if the person doesn't agree with what they're doing. Have you ever heard of Stanley Milgram's experiment? 65% followed through with the entire experiment (meaning they gave what they believed to be lethal amounts of electric shock to the "learner") despite not agreeing with what they were doing.

I'm in no way agreeing with the Nuremberg defense, but the power of obedience and authority is very real.


As for Christianity, most of the followers are good people who are simply trying to live their life by their belief of God, which is completely praise-worthy. The problem is that Christianity is vague enough that it's easy to corrupt or twist to one's own personal beliefs or agenda. No other religion in history has as many offshoots and sects as Christianity.

Unfortunately, the fully commendable amount of religious zeal found in Christianity can be a double-edged sword as some people can be swayed off the course. Religion should never be a tool used to accomplish some earthy gain. If you don't like the way someone lives then don't associate with them.
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Postby knapplc » Thu May 10, 2007 8:21 am

Good post, Massed. Milgram's 37th is my favorite psych experiment. ;-D

The only point I'll disagree with is the vague-ness of Christianity. It is not vague. It is pretty clearly spelled out in the Manual. The problem is that most people don't RTFM! This has been a never-ending source of frustration for me. There would be far fewer sects if people simply knew the story of the faith they profess.

Since not all people read, or read well, or have any interest in reading, we end up with stuff like this happening. :-/
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Postby StlSluggers » Thu May 10, 2007 9:05 am

knapplc wrote:The problem is that most people don't RTFM!

Yep.
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Thu May 10, 2007 9:14 am

StlSluggers wrote:
knapplc wrote:The problem is that most people don't RTFM!

Yep.


And these are the same people that seem to talk the loudest and most often. :-t
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Postby StlSluggers » Thu May 10, 2007 9:16 am

Omaha Red Sox wrote:
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knapplc wrote:The problem is that most people don't RTFM!

Yep.


And these are the same people that seem to talk the loudest and most often. :-t

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