I read the caption and heard the argument, and I think even someone considering Jose Reyes as "The most exciting player of all-time" or "The best all around player of our *EDIT* generation" is absolutely INSANE! I don't even have to run down all of the players who have been better than him in history, because I can't and won't type all those names. If he retired today he wouldnt get one Hall of Fame vote.
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wrveres wrote:If he played in Colorado or someplace else, nobody east of the Mississippi would even know his name.
I think that's probably true. I also think you have to put the ball over the fence more often to be considered the most exciting player of our time. I'd go Oritz and Pujols because when they come up to bat you are waiting for them to change the game in one swing. Stealing a base isn't all that exciting 80 percent of the time.
im assuming all of you just look at box scores and say, oh, he went 2-3 3 runs scored and 2 sbs... nice line right? but what you fail to notice by not watchin him everyday is that he drag bunted one of those hits with 1 out, stole 2nd, stole third, n then got sack flied in, all on his speed... n then he scored from first on a hit n run after he walked, n then he got a basehit, where the pitcher balked him the 2nd bc he was afraid of the steal and then scored on the next basehit... thats why hes exciting... bc unlike ortiz and pujols, you cant just look at his boxscore and know exactly what he did to change the game do i need to even mention when he went first to third on a ball that didnt get out of the infield??? exciting isnt always the longball, trust me, from watching almost every game when joses on base, it is hands down the most exciting thing to watch in baseball
its tough to give any "all time" consideration to someone who hasn't exceeded five seasons in a league. I mean christ, for a while there, Kurt Warner was damn exciting and the rams were putting up points like no ones business. Eric Lindros was scoring tons of points, getting in fights, laying down hits etc. Bernard King was incredibly exciting in his own right. (basketball has a disproportionate number of these types).
Point being that its a little early for that talk. Second of all, Reyes is exciting in the academic sense (to me anyway), but as some seem to be hinting, I find players like Pujols, Ryan Howard, Bonds (from a year or two) etc. way more exciting in the visceral sense.
I'm not going to debate whether or not he's the most exciting player of our generation. But I have been watching the Mets for over 25 years and he is easily the most exciting player I've ever seen play regularly.
Maine has a good swing for a pitcher but on anything that moves, he has no chance. And if it's a fastball, it has to be up in the zone. Basically, the pitcher has to hit his bat. - Mike Pelfrey
Amazinz wrote:I'm not going to debate whether or not he's the most exciting player of our generation. But I have been watching the Mets for over 25 years and he is easily the most exciting player I've ever seen play regularly.
This is pretty much where I stand, too. If you don't watch a player all the time, it's hard to comment on the level of 'excitement' in watching them play. So, none of us are going to have a truly objective stance here. No Excel spreadsheet can help us, either. I'm sure it has to do with being a diehard supporter of the Mets, and getting to see nearly every one of his plate appearances, but Reyes is by and far the most exciting player I've ever seen.