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by **grammysboy** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:12 am

Good analysis, Jonnyblack, I think most of us would put Nomar in that "elite" catagory just behind A-Rod. I doubt he will make it to the second round of many drafts.

by **jonnyblack** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:07 pm

good point, bringing up javy. he put up sick #'s for anyone, let alone a catcher. I am, however, still scared to draft him. Is he still going to be in shape and motivated after he signs another contract,? Or was last year more of an exception rather than a rule? I can just see myself drafting him too early and painfully watching him go .265 with 18 and 88. Or, if I decide not to draft him, I can see him go similar to last year.

If you consider production at the position level, i think that Javy belongs on the short list of 2003 fantasy MVP. Also, A-Rod was only .002 BA points away from qualifying in all five categories given the parameters above.

by **trevisc** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:28 pm

.002?

by DK » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:52 pm

trevisc wrote:how does Javy Stack up in this equation? He broke the homerun record by a Catcher this past season...

Javy carried me in my keeper league, all the way to the finals. In that keeper league, I had as much as 8 people on the DL at once :-[

. Mainly because I had Hoffman, Oswalt, Burnett, Armas Jr., I could go on...

Jorge Julio was a great later pick for me. And of course, getting Esteban off WW... B-)

by **jonnyblack** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:03 pm

Trev

I meant that A-Rod hit .298, while the minimum parameters for the top 40 players for BA was .300. So had A-Rod batted ".002" higher, he would have qualified under said parameters (along with sheffield and nomar) to be in the top 40 in all five fantasy categories.

The whole point of my A-Rod post was to remind myself that he is still a stud :-)

.

peace

by **trevisc** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:32 pm

jonnyblack wrote:The whole point of my A-Rod post was to remind myself that he is still a stud .

peace

you got that right buddy boy! A-rod is awesome! Slipped disc or no slipped disc!

by **jonnyblack** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:36 pm

Have you heard anything about that old disc?

by **trevisc** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:37 pm

no.. and I havn't heard about Vlad's either...

kind of worried cuz Vlad is one of my keepers and he didn't steal squat after he came back...

by **jonnyblack** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:41 pm

I think Vlad will be back to full "speed" soon, but a lot of guys steal less and less as they age. hopefully this is not the case with Vlad. Another note about steals. I'd watch out for the Kaz Matsui bandwagon. Art Howe's teams are almost always last in the league is SB's, so I don't expect Kaz to put up sick steal numbers.

by **Erboes** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:44 pm

Don't confuse the two injuries. Rodriguez's has slipped, which means that it is out of place and will not slip back unless he has major surgery. Guerrero's was merely herniated and that usually heals on its own which, judging by his numbers last season, that has already occured. And even if Guerrero needs surgery it is considered minor and is used to speed up the recovery process.

I am a certified quack so I feel absolutely comfortable giving my medical opinion. Really, though, I'm sure someone can confirm this or prove it to be a bunch of hooey. I did have Guerrero's condition long ago so I do feel somewhat qualified in what I said. Rodriguez's, though, I just read about last spring when the word came down about his condition, so I could be completely wrong about it.

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