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Postby koolhalfski » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:40 pm

silverZ wrote:Worry about his history of arm problems, not spring training stats.
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Postby Secret Avatar » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:57 pm

FYI, the word is that Hamels was working on a new pitch in ST -- an inside FB -- so I wouldn't read too much into his ST numbers. Echoing the above, the real concern is his health. If he can stay healthy, he'll be a top 10 and possibly even top 5 pitcher.
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Postby Sid Bream's Slide » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:00 pm

Secret Avatar wrote:FYI, the word is that Hamels was working on a new pitch in ST -- an inside FB -- so I wouldn't read too much into his ST numbers. Echoing the above, the real concern is his health. If he can stay healthy, he'll be a top 10 and possibly even top 5 pitcher.


;-D I'd like to read about that. Can you direct me to the story? Gracias.
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Postby Secret Avatar » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:43 pm

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Postby byfrcp » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:45 pm

You should be more worried about Cole Hamels finding out you started this thread and hunting you down with a fastball :-D
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Postby Sid Bream's Slide » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:49 pm


Thanks.

Hamels, who had an outstanding rookie season, struggled in his previous three starts and entered with a 7.00 ERA. The left-hander has been working on establishing an inside fastball. All five homers he's allowed this spring were on fastballs that didn't get far enough inside.

"I was able to execute and my timing was a lot better," Hamels said. "Now I know I'm ready. It's a big help."
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Postby swyck » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:53 pm

silverZ wrote:Worry about his history of arm problems, not spring training stats.


What history of arm problems? :-?
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Postby Pirates4Life » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:00 pm

Chrisy Moltisanti wrote:
Ditka311 wrote:
Pirates4Life wrote:If you're going to worry about Hamels for anything, worry that he threw 74 innings in 2003, followed by 51 COMBINED innings in 2004 and 2005 before throwing 155 innings last year. People expecting anything close to 200 innings this year are dreaming.


"Faberge eggs, china dolls, ice sculptures, Cole Hamels. If this were that pyramid gameshow, the category would be "beautiful things that are fragile."

These are the opening 2 sentences in Baseball Prospectus' write-up on Hamels.


Hamel's injury history is really weird, there isn't much significant that is baseball related.


When I posted what I did, I wasn't even referring to the possibility that he gets hurt. The chances of him breaking down after that much of a 1 year increase in his innings is a concern, but the Phillies would be foolish to try and push him hard enough this year for him to reach anything close to 200 innings.

They could ruin him for the rest of his career.
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Postby Yoda » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:43 pm

swyck wrote:
silverZ wrote:Worry about his history of arm problems, not spring training stats.


What history of arm problems? :-?


He broke his arm in high school, elbow issues shut him down a few years ago and had shoulder pains last year. He is a bit more risky than your normal 23 yo but his ceiling is just as great.
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